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Is the Tesla Model 3 Likely to Be the Most Important Car of this Decade?

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boiling a frog:

https://electrek.co/2019/01/22/tesla-cuts-supercharger-prices-back-down-customer-backlash/

- 'relief' that the price hasn't increased so much.

This is the reality of 'the brave new world' of EV.

In UK, electricity can already cost 30p/kWh, or up to 65p/kWh, which of course, given the 2 miles/kWh consumption of an I-Pace, makes it far more expensive than £5.50/gal. diesel, from 40 mpg.

People will slowly wake up to 'free motoring'.
 

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boiling a frog:

https://electrek.co/2019/01/22/tesla-cuts-supercharger-prices-back-down-customer-backlash/

- 'relief' that the price hasn't increased so much.

This is the reality of 'the brave new world' of EV.

In UK, electricity can already cost 30p/kWh, or up to 65p/kWh, which of course, given the 2 miles/kWh consumption of an I-Pace, makes it far more expensive than £5.50/gal. diesel, from 40 mpg.

People will slowly wake up to 'free motoring'.
No reason for anyone to pay more than £8.00 per month to BP Chargemaster(free to OVO customers)and then 10.5p/ kWh at a fast chargers across the entire network.

The Netherlands authorities type approved the Model 3 yesterday and a shipload ( up to 6000) is at sea heading for Zeebrugge.
Don’t know if the type approval, EU wide, will apply to U.K. if we go out on WTO terms.
 

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Why are people paying so much attention to Supercharger prices? Most Tesla owners charge >95% at home and/or destinations (employers, hotels, etc).

Off-peak home rates in the US are as low as $0.02/KWh, with peak rates going as high as $0.18/KWh, and $0.10/KWh being a common rate for those that don't do time of day rating.

Superchargers are for the occasional long trip mid-way top off. Tesla is correct in discouraging people from using Superchargers as their primary charging methot simply because they have been free or subsidized. Need to keep those superchargers free for those who actually need them - i.e. those on a long distance trip.

Also, Supercharger V3 (250KW charging) will be announced in March and will be drawing even more customers to use Supercharger if prices are kept artificially low.
 

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Tesla is responsible for half of Toyota’s owner defection rate

Toyota recently admitted that the Tesla Model 3 is affecting Prius sales, but we are now learning by just how much: Toyota says that it has a 9% owner defection rate in North America and it attributes about half of it to Tesla.
Last year, Tesla revealed the top 5 cars Tesla Model 3 buyers are trading in and the Prius topped the list:

  • Toyota Prius
  • BMW 3-Series
  • Honda Accord
  • Honda Civic
  • Nissan Leaf
Earlier this month, Toyota Motor North America CEO Jim Lentz said that they are seeing the impact of Tesla Model 3 on Prius sales.
Now, Automotive News reports further comments from Lentz saying that they are seeing a 9% overall defection rate and half of it is attributable to Tesla:
“Meanwhile, Toyota dealers are facing uncharacteristic defections from one of the brand’s most recognizable products, the Prius, to one of the industry’s upstarts, Tesla. Toyota has an overall defection rate to other brands of about 9 percent, and about half of that is made up of Prius owners going to Tesla, according to Jim Lentz, CEO of Toyota Motor North America.”






https://electrek.co/2019/01/28/tesla-responsible-half-toyota-owner-defection-rate/
 

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Tesla is rapidly taking share from the EV and overall car premium car market. That has got to hurt the legacy automakers.

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they surely are going out of business before the end of the year, now...

 

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The Great German/European Hope - the Porsche Taycan - just fell flat on it's face.

Even with their ultra complicated 2-speed-gearing, their 800V system, etc, the Taycan Turbo and Taycan Turbo S, have the single worst efficiency of all EVs.

The worst EPA ratings of them all. Not just bad. The worst - less than 70MPGe. And 192mi range - didn't even make it to 200mi. How ridiculous!!!


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Meanwhile, Tesla's market cap is approaching US$100B.
 

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Hahahah - UK data: Tesla Model 3 alone sold 3 times as many vehicles in April as VW!!!!
 
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