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Should be a huge story - bigger than that Footie and Scamdemic rubbish - the massively delayed/cancelled New Range(&Sport):

'New 2021 Range Rover spotted with BMW V8 engine

Fifth-generation Land Rover flagship is seen testing with 4.4-litre petrol V8, tipped to be from BMW as part of new tie-up

by Rachel Burgess

6 August 2019'


- almost 2 years ago - JLR doesn't test cars for 2 years - 2 months, maybe.

Besides the obvious - the headline says 'New 2021 Range Rover' - not happening - it also is saying almost certainly that it had the BMW V8.

This isn't a delay - why would desperate JLR delay by at least 12 months its most crucial, life-dependent product - it's a cancellation. The New Range Rover - and 99% same-Sport - is dead.

Because, probably at almost exactly the same time this bunkum was written by Autocar, Speth was getting an urgent communication from an underling holding the fort, with Speth off on his luxo hols, that BMW had told them, JLR HQ, that the contract for the supply of the BMW V8, 'Project Jennifer' was terminated - force majeure, due to the impending Euro 7 regs., meaning BMW would not be pursuing the V8's development, or replacement, any longer - on the orders of the new CEO, Oliver Zipse.

Now, almost 2 years on, JLR has the huge problem of pretending New Range Rover is still alive, a thing, just delayed - a lot - but definitely ongoing.


Imagine if the press, the world found out that New Range Rover was dead - i.e., the end of Range Rover.

Imagine Porsche having to tell the world that the 911 was dead.

The car that was/is displayed in the Louvre - Range Rover.

That would be enough to bring down a regime - like the ravens leaving the Tower.

Never mind Her Maj kicking the bucket, the end of the Range Rover, and espeically for the reason why - having to go cap in hand to the Germans, for an engine, which they then reneged on suppying - would break the spirit, morale, purpose of the nation.

Wow.
 

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JLR could now be sourcing the next lot of engines from Dyson now that Lennard Hoornik is on board.Whoosh.
 

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Apparently Henry Ford could do handstands in his seventies - fit as a flea, workaholic... .

Diess is not far behind, in age, and energy and ambition - put VW/VW group back to where it was 10 years ago, and back 40/50 years ago in the US/N.America - the only global region where it has no real success or imprint at the moment:

VW Group U.S. market share could be 10% by 2030 because of EVs, Diess says

Automaker will design and make its own batteries, roll out a Level 4 autonomous vehicle in 2026 and beat Tesla at its own game.


- you know by this he means trounce the Tesla fraud thing, fully, within a couple/three years, and have 15-20% share of the US/N.Amercia market across the group within five or so years - as not only all its EV cars are rolled out of MEB, PPE etc - but also many competitors go bankrupt, or amalgamate to try to survive, or are exposed formally as criminal enterprises - Tesla, and Tata-JLR, if it still exists.

Diess grows more bold, more revealing of what he and VAG are really up to, have long planned, by the day now - nothing to hide, nothing to fear, so show everyone what you've really got, and scare the bejesus out of them.
 

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That VW decided years ago to make massive EV investments was a great move. The figures are impressive, two years ago the known investments over the next years they were (in billion US$):

Volkswagen 91

compared to single countries:

China 57
U.S. 39
Japan 24

On the second manufacturer place:

Daimler 42

Those massive investments are now showing a lot of results. About half of the worldwide EV investments are made by German manufacturers.
 

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Croppers comes a cropper:


Either the sauce has loosened the tongue too much, or he's demob happy - knows it's all over - not a single mention of his beloved JLR crowbarred into everyone else's news.
 

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Thick or lying?:

'A third of all cars produced in the UK are produced in the West Midlands by companies including Aston Martin, BMW and Jaguar Land Rover.'

- since when was Cowley/Oxford/Oxfordshire in the western part of the centre of England?:


The desperate vermin must know this.

West Midlands county/region is responsible for about one-eighth to one-tenth of UK-produced cars currently - Castle Brom closed, Solihull operating at about 100k/yr running rate, and Aston at Gaydon producing less than 5k/yr - its main factory obviously in Wales for the DBX.

This Coventry airport gigafactory thing is just cover for a desperate mayor Street and other WM bureaucrats/parasites, who see their gravytrain disappearing down the plughole, as JLR gets ever nearer to having to admit it's publically bust.

What would it do with these Coventry-made 'manufactured', cough, final-assembled, batteries? It has no need for mass battery supply until 2024 at the earliest? - it'll be long pushing up daisies before then.

Street and Whitehall, MPs like Julian Knight of Solihull, know that JLR is about to finally, formally keel over, and this is just a last ditch attempt to funnel, shove money into it, from a completely bust and empty public exchequer.

I imagine the likes of Sunak are dead against it - obviously fatboy Spaffer all for it - he's on the way out, doesn't give a damn.

Spaffer is already yesterday's man, and Sunak in the ascendant, so Whitehall will pay attention to him, not the England flag-bedecked clown.

As I've said, it doesn't matter, even if Street and co. use this gigafactory for cover for giving 'JLR' - Tata - up to £5bn of public money - an emergency transfusion.

JLR needs tens of £billions, and can't buy time anyway.

It's time that's killed it. Everyone, besides Tesla, was making new product, especially EVs, since Dieselgate, 5/6 years ago, but JLR's sole focus was getting sold - first as a trade sale, then all eyes, efforts and energy on an IPO.

There was no car company at JLR since at least 2016. Now, it's all caught up with them - no EVs, no engines, no new product - the refrocked Disco5, 'Icon', is 2 years old in a couple of months.

Bollore was brought in to do one thing - IPO JLR. He failed. The target, plan was Q1, April at the latest, for it.

Now he's trying to run a car company - by slashing and burning everything that doesn't make a profit - 90% at least of the company.

That just leaves Full-fat/Sport, Icon, and SVO, as I've said.

But Full-fat/Sport is/are as old as the hills, and 'powered' in the money-spinning 'top' versions by a 25 years old, emissions regs.-extinct engine.

The pulling of the BMW V8 was the thing that actually capsized, finally did for JLR.

No new Range Rover/Sport, no point in JLR.
 

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Hmm, familiar:

'Development of that 3.0-litre motor, which was set to exceed the 715bhp output of even the DBS Superleggera's V12, was axed soon after Moers took over because, he said, it would not have been Euro 7 compliant and "would have taken another huge investment that was really too big to bring to life".'


- exactly what incoming, new BMW boss Oliver Zipse did, probably almost to the day 2 years ago, with then 'next gen' highly developed or wholly new V8 replacement of the 2009 V8 - because it would not have been Euro 7, and the take of the V8 at BMW was even then forecast to drop/fall of a cliff, once people realised the new 'S58' I6, with hybridisation, was quicker, and of course had a fraction of the CO2 - officially - for the all-important fleet average, and avoiding fines, something like ~50g versus ~300g/100 km for the then decade-old V8.

Lucky for Aston Martin, Mercedes/AMG/Daimler rode to the rescue - Aston would have gone fully and finally bump without Daimler's de facto takeover - Daimler gets huge profit margin cars in return, with Merc-AMG off the shelf powertrains, or EV platforms.

There's no Daimler for JLR. That's the difference.

If JLR can slim down to ~50k cars a year, with 'Range Rover' badging - and that's all - a buyer might be interested, selling ~£250k to £1m+ cars - specials, 'one-offs', commission cars etc.

JLR is about 200k cars a year, and ~25,000 direct workers from that - and up to ten times that to go bump, go down the road, in the supply and distribution bases.

That's JLR's and UK's only choice - that or JLR failing completely - no one will buy it, go near it in its present state and configuration.
 

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Hmm, familiar:

'Development of that 3.0-litre motor, which was set to exceed the 715bhp output of even the DBS Superleggera's V12, was axed soon after Moers took over because, he said, it would not have been Euro 7 compliant and "would have taken another huge investment that was really too big to bring to life".'


- exactly what incoming, new BMW boss Oliver Zipse did, probably almost to the day 2 years ago, with then 'next gen' highly developed or wholly new V8 replacement of the 2009 V8 - because it would not have been Euro 7, and the take of the V8 at BMW was even then forecast to drop/fall of a cliff, once people realised the new 'S58' I6, with hybridisation, was quicker, and of course had a fraction of the CO2 - officially - for the all-important fleet average, and avoiding fines, something like ~50g versus ~300g/100 km for the then decade-old V8.

Lucky for Aston Martin, Mercedes/AMG/Daimler rode to the rescue - Aston would have gone fully and finally bump without Daimler's de facto takeover - Daimler gets huge profit margin cars in return, with Merc-AMG off the shelf powertrains, or EV platforms.

There's no Daimler for JLR. That's the difference.

If JLR can slim down to ~50k cars a year, with 'Range Rover' badging - and that's all - a buyer might be interested, selling ~£250k to £1m+ cars - specials, 'one-offs', commission cars etc.

JLR is about 200k cars a year, and ~25,000 direct workers from that - and up to ten times that to go bump, go down the road, in the supply and distribution bases.

That's JLR's and UK's only choice - that or JLR failing completely - no one will buy it, go near it in its present state and configuration.
“Volkswagen [is] ****ing everyone off,” said one auto lobbyist with knowledge of ACEA’s regular technical meetings of car company officials who decide association policy.
And why wouldn’t they. They were the ones that took all the stick for the wrongdoings of all the others.

 

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I guess there is a dirty word filter, that has removed a part of your link. I need to try that... does it work with ****ing or ****ing? Or maybe the link works this way...

No chance, as the preview showed. **** and **** are not allowed ;) The missing part is p i s s, my alternative was the four letter word with f. I guess that no children will read this here...
 

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Obviously Dan Tosser doesn't bother to read his employer's own material:

'In the coming months[2021], Land Rover will reveal the fifth-generation Range Rover.

With the new model's powertrains (including BMW's 4.4-litre twin-turbo V8 to replace the supercharged 5.0 'AJ' unit, which is expected to be culled when the Euro 7 emissions regulations are introduced)'


Mardell, the CFO of the company Tosser effectively works for - JLR's PR contractor Haymarket - said something a tad different, very recently:

'Mardell said the semiconductor shortage would not have an impact on the launch of a critical new Land Rover model, the Range Rover large SUV, which is set for early 2022.



- who to believe, Tosser or the CFO of the firm making this delayed/cancelled 'Stunner'?

Tosser knows 'L460' is massively delayed, as I've explained in this thread, and may well be cancelled totally, due to the pulling of the BMW V8 2 years ago - you can't launch a car, costing up to £200k, that will have a shelf life not much longer than a pint of milk - even the lowlifes at JLR wouldn't do that - the Ultras would come after them for a literal pound of flesh.

Tosser has been sent out to do damage limitation - actually the piece is about whipping up interest in no doubt great stocks of rapidly aging near-£200k Autobiographys and the like, with the line: 'get these classics while you can, new model about to be introduced'.

Maybe Tosser is Cropley's replacement as JLR's Comical Ali.
 

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Ratcliffe, the council house man, is parking his tank all over the blue bloods' lawns:

'Rode in one of the two test mules yesterday at Glanusk. Overwhelmingly positive experience. To summarise, if it sells for the supposed sub-£50k will be bargain of all time in car world.'


- just as I said many times here already - which is why JLR/Haymarket have their crack shills all over the Grenadier thread - saying it's a complete waste of time, total flop, 'Get an Icon', etc, etc - they know it means the end of JLR - LR - if they can't suffocate it at birth.

The 'blue blood's love a shekel, and the Legge-Bourkes will have been hansomely paid by Ineos for the use of their 20,000 acre estate.

'Legge-Bourke' ring a bell?:

'Shân Legge-Bourke, Lord Lieutenant of Powys and a lady-in-waiting to The Princess Royal, is the (present) owner of the Glanusk estate.[9] She is the daughter of Wilfred Bailey who was the third Baron Glanusk. Her daughter Tiggy Legge-Bourke, nanny to Prince William and his brother Prince Harry, grew up at Glanusk and still lives on the estate.'


So putting the Grenadier on Glanusk's lawns is like spitting in the eye of top Tata salesman, Charles Mountatten-Windsor.

- live by the shekel - paying 'HRH' Charlie to promote a foreign-owned company's wares, and 'celebs' like Giles Coren to say his Gamechanger has been stolen every five minutes - die by the sword - get outspent by a council house boy, whose ambition is to spite the 'establishment' that spat in his eye - wouldn't sell him the Defender's tooling.
 

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Perhaps we need to 'Fight them on the Beaches' - of Bombay:

Brit workers battle to save historic factory that built Spitfires during the war


'Maguire' - good, patriotic English name that - like all hacks, doesn't know his ar$e from his elbow, confusing the GKN factory with the 'Spitfire factory' down the Chester Road - JLR Castle Brom.

GKN/Hardy Spicer's Chester Road would have been hard pushed to be making Spitfires - 'wot won the war' - when it opened ten years after the end of it.

Juat another day in La-la land.
 

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While the BEV version of the 'New' Range Rover is at least 3 years away, Mercedes will show a 'concept' of the BEV G-Class, 'EQG', in a few weeks in Munich, with the production car likely in around 12 months from now:

 

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The EQG will be another direct hit. But as the comments from that article say too, the G-Class has a very long waiting list. About two years, hard to imagine, that there is a mentionable capacity for the BEV version left. The S-Class production will receive a third shift soon, maybe they can do that for the EQG too.
 

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In a half-sane country, the towel would be thrown in. Porsche making a mockery of 'Stunning Success JLR', with the still huge-selling - over 100k/yr - 2008 Audi Q5 - sorry, '2022 Porsche Macan':

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Almost as old as JLR's 2006 Freelander - Evoque/DSport/E-Pace - but genuinely outselling them combined by 2:1, with huge profit margins - average new Macan sells for around £65-70k.

People are that daft, though. They've stopped buying ~£60k Ingenium 4-pot 2006 Freelandrs, but appreciate ancient Audis that have been developed, and developed, ...and developed, and of cours have rock-hard residuals - typically 90% after even up to 2 years.

The Evoque thing was a one-off - fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice... , hence why the Evoque collasped from around 2015, when idiots realised the crap they had bought.

5-6 years of treading air, with Porsche now mercilessly landing blow after blow - the Macan E around just 12 months away.
 

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JLR's only engineering, all engineering, now done by Bosch:

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- driving in, around Abstatt, Baden-Wuerttemberg, the home of Bosch Engineering GmbH:


So what's the point of 13,000 engineers at Gaydon? The point of Gaydon? ...The point of JLR?

Motor Authority says '2024 Range Rover Sport', whereas the Auto Express rag says '2022 Range Rover Sport'.

- they're desperate.

The Sport needs, needed, the BMW V8 as much as the Full-fat, which is why it's delayed till 2023, at the earliest - probably trying to make the Ingenium I6 with electric assist give around 600hp.

No wonder 'They' want all the plebs 24/7 distracted by 'The Virus' - the real economy has gone.
 

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Mercedes has a new strategy, they are moving from Electric first to Electric only.

Yesterday, they revealed that they acquired the UK electric motor company YASA, and that they will set up eight battery factories with partners for more than 200 GHh production capacity. 4 in Europe, 3 in China, 1 US plant. Those are on top of the 9 partnership ones they already have.

In 2025, they will have three bespoke EV platforms. A German source says
AMG.EA ist eine auf Spitzenleistung ausgelegte Elektro-Plattform, die sich an die Bedürfnisse der technologieaffinen und leistungsorientierten Kunden von Mercedes-AMG richtet (EV only, auch für Aston Martin).
Dieser Schritt umfasst die Akquisition des britischen Elektromotorenspezialisten YASA. Mit dieser Übernahme erhält Mercedes-Benz Zugang zu einzigartiger Technologie im Bereich Axialflussmotoren und Expertise für die Entwicklung von Ultra-High-Performance-Axialflussmotoren (für die AMG Plattform AMG.EA).

So basically, this new AMG platform (the Aston Martin mentioning was added by that source, still no official confirmation for that) receives unique engines, they bought YASA to develop those permanent-magnet axial-flux electric motors.

Here is the wikipedia article about YASA.

That makes a lot of sense... unlike Bollores Jaguar fantasy.
 
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