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The most disappointing item on my XF is the seats. They look good, feel nice and smell nice. However they offer little or no lateral support. When cornering or using a roundabout at a brisk (I don't do fast) speed I am thrown across the car by sliding across the leather seats. Mrs BigAndy has the same problem in the passenger seat without the benefit of the steering wheel yo hang onto! What happened to the good bucket seats offered on the SV8/XFR? They should at least be an option on the 3.0 litre models. :cry:

My company car (Astra) has more supportive seats as does the lovely (1970s) P6 Rover I drove last week. :eek:

Be honest apart from the adjustability, heating etc of the fitted seats, don't you think Jaguar could have fitted more supportive seats to match the performance of a car like this? When you consider the development thay have done on the overall handling they have let us down by a potentially dangerous lack of support for the driver & passengers when cornering. I think Jaguar may have to look at some sort of alacantara /cloyh insert to the seat to increase friction between the drivers bottom and the seat cover... discuss :idea:
 

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Have to admit I haven't slid across the seat at any time, bum has stayed firmly planted!
 

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I absolutely agree that the lateral support is lacking.
I hear that there is some sort of interior pack with "R" seats without the "R" now, but that doesn't help me.

I don't think it is a deal braker though.
I would have the same car again despite the seats.
 

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Have to admit I haven't slid across the seat at any time, bum has stayed firmly planted!
I find the driver's seat comfortable and supportive laterally. Perhaps the shape of my rear end is Jaguar friendly! The cooled seats, with their secondary frames and the cushion length adjustment on the Portfolio driver's seat, are a big improvement on my original 2.7D PL.
 

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I have the 2.7 Premium Luxury and the seats are awful, both for lateral support but even more for lumber support. I find them very uncomfortable on long journeys and now have to use an old towel (folded) for the small of my back.

I appreciate not everyone is going to have the problem I have but Jaguar should have a lumber adjustment as standard on a £43000 car. Volvo do for a lot less money!

I only hope the XFR seats are better - not that I am about to order one :(
 

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BigAndy said:
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The most disappointing item on my XF is the seats. They look good, feel nice and smell nice. However they offer little or no lateral support. When cornering or using a roundabout at a brisk (I don't do fast) speed I am thrown across the car by sliding across the leather seats. Mrs BigAndy has the same problem in the passenger seat without the benefit of the steering wheel yo hang onto! What happened to the good bucket seats offered on the SV8/XFR? They should at least be an option on the 3.0 litre models. :cry:

My company car (Astra) has more supportive seats as does the lovely (1970s) P6 Rover I drove last week. :eek:

Be honest apart from the adjustability, heating etc of the fitted seats, don't you think Jaguar could have fitted more supportive seats to match the performance of a car like this? When you consider the development thay have done on the overall handling they have let us down by a potentially dangerous lack of support for the driver & passengers when cornering. I think Jaguar may have to look at some sort of alacantara /cloyh insert to the seat to increase friction between the drivers bottom and the seat cover... discuss :idea:
That's a bit strong Andy :!: If ever you feel you are in danger, the remedy is simple; fit the XFR seats or better, buy an XFR.
I, like you "don't do fast" and in the short period that I have had my Portfolio, lack of support in the seats has never crossed my mind. Maybe, I too have a Jaguar friendly a***e :)
 

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Coming from a car with sports seats, the latteral support (or lack thereof) is a concern for me, though I have to say I didnt notice it was agreat issue on the test drive. That being said, I didnt throw it round any twisties on the test drive either.

Although I'm not particularly buying the XF for its sporting credentials, it would be nice to know that when the moment comes for a bit of spirited driving, I wont be sliding around.
 

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The only problem I have with the seats is my phone frequently slides off in fast corners.
I could always put it in one of the cubby holes, but I prefer to blame it on poor design ;)
 

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I have my XF LP now for 4 weeks and find the seat uncomfortable. Where it gets me is in the area where ones trouser belt is located, on the seat there is a ridge of stitching where two leather panels meet that is proud of the rest of the seet and digs in as does the one on horizontal part of the seat. I find after and hour I am fidgetting around to get comfortable and constantly adjudting the seat. My previous car a BMW notorious for hard seats I have to say was more comfortable and certainly had more lateral support as I too have slid of the seat.

Other than that 4 weeks in - nothing needs fixing (except the blue tooth but that's my phone!) and the car is a joy to drive and sooo quiet. :D
 

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Surely lumbar support is standard on the PL - it certainly is on mine!
 

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BigAndy said:
When cornering or using a roundabout at a brisk (I don't do fast) speed I am thrown across the car by sliding across the leather seats.
TimXF said:
I too have slid off the seat.

"Thrown across the car" "I too have slid off the seat"

When it is put like that, it seems that there is an horrendous problem with the seats on your cars. It would be great to have a video camera mounted along side you both, to capture the action, and then you could post a clip on YouTube :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

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I stand by my comments, the seats are not upto the standard I expect from a £40K luxury car withn sporting pretensions. If I by the S (sport) model can't I expect sports seats. :(
 

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PS Sorry about the spelling above, should have previewed it!
 

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I stand by my comments, the seats are not upto the standard I expect from a £40K luxury car withn sporting pretensions. If I by the S (sport) model can't I expect sports seats. :(
As I said earlier, seat is fine for me, I actually sit in it, not on it, so no slide. Is yours the cooled seat, I believe they are a bit harder, mine are the standard Luxury ones and mine has "worn in" very nicely, a bit like Homer Simpsons settee! ;)
 

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I agree with you BigAndy - how can it be a "sport" variant yet not the sports seats?

I would imagine Jaguar dealers are bemused by that, and probably get some comments as well from anyone who cares to study the brochure.
 

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I went for a test drive today in an 3.0D S and have to agree that I found the seats lacked the lateral support that I'm used to with my current car. I too was sliding about, and this without any particularly 'spirited' driving!

When I mentioned this to the salesman he confirmed that the XFR seats are available as a £1500 option (on PL & Portfolio - £2K on L).

Have to say, I found the rest of the experience very impressive and have moved the XF to the top of my list.

Very very very tempted!
 

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Welcome to the Forum Boo :)
Now go back and buy one; You know you will :lol:
As for the seats; I think they are fine. They do need to be customised with regard to the seat squab angle and back support etc. Worth trying it to discover the difference it makes :)
 

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Sorry Pekem but I disagree. Obviously seating is going to be a different experience for different bodies (!) but the standard seats are very disappointing in terms of shape.

I do back you in saying buy the car, and if you feel that the sports seats would be better then order them. It is just a shame that you have to pay extra for something that shouldn't be a problem for any potential purchaser.

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Thanks for the welcome Pekem - I was certainly more than a little taken by the XF!

I admit I didn't spend much time adjusting the seat - I was too eager to get cracking with the driving - so I probably could have got it a bit better.

I think one of the main problems is I that I have had a car for the last 3 years which had sports seats and I'm just used to that sort of snug feel. Unfortunately, the dealer didn't have a XFR in stock today for me to try, but they will have one by tomorrow so I'm going to nip back in to have a sit in that.

It certainly wouldn't be a deal breaker to go with the standard seats - I was just aware of moving about more than I would ideally like!
 
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