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You're Doug DeMuro, and I claim my $5.

It is not 'compact'. It's 5.1 metres long, 2.2 metres wide, 2 metres tall - almost exactly the size of a Hummer H2.
I'm sorry to be so late in replying, but I just came across this photo of three prototypes of the next Nissan Qashqai. Behind them we see the new Defender, and it looks huge.
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I'm sorry to be so late in replying, but I just came across this photo of three prototypes of the next Nissan Qashqai. Behind them we see the new Defender, and it looks huge.
- because it is. The spare wheel/wheels are as good as 3 feet in diameter - 22" wheels and around 285/55 tyres, and it weighs not far off two base-spec Qashqais.

The cars in front are the car JLR needs/needed: a C-Segment-based compact/medium-sized(European terms) SUV/crossover, weighing 1.4-1.7 tonnes, 40-50 mpg, ~£25-40k, etc.

The car behind is the car JLR wants/wanted: by the kids running it under the AWOL, dereliction of duty Speth, since around 2015 at least, when he realised Callum's 'New Gen' was a complete sales dud, Ingenium an abortion, and zero hope of getting proper engines from BMW or VAG, and had been counting down the days to retirement/pension pot since.

A proper CEO would have kiboshed this 2.5 tonne+, <15 mpg(petrol six-cylinder) lunatic indulgence, at least as soon as Dieselgate hit, back in 2016. It's dead in the water in Europe and everywhere else besides the $2/gal. US, and patriotic Americans buy V8, options-loaded, full-size trucks for JLR Defender money, or two Wranglers.

Its only market was the G-Class's, and the G-Class owns that - £100-150k G63s - and the Ineos Grenadier and Bronco will pick up the market the original Defender, and original G-Wagen, vacated - £40-~£60k full-size(European terms) 4x4s.

This is not rocket science, this appalling product planning, and what was obvious to do instead, but just a fake, figurehead CEO - knighthood etc - and a running amok, infantile, believing their own PR and media sycophancy management, who thought they were fireproof, as the taxpayer would always save them, bail them out - JLR too important to fail for the state - and then along came 'The Great Reset', aka The Thing, plus the Ineos Grenadier, plus Ford Bronco, plus EV-mania, plus the Chinese and Indians at each other's throats, plus Euro 7, plus Level 3+ autonomy, ...plus, plus, plus.

And on top of all that, we then got a 'leader' called Spaffer, and JLR's fate was sealed - PR, chancer, charlatan man finishes off PR, chancer, charlatan operation, ably assisted by a grocer(WM mayor Street), and know-nothing, useful as a chocolate fireguard Oxbridge PPE SpAds.

'Great' cultures, empires, countries end in farce. Arguing about which end of the egg to crack - statues etc - playing to the lowest common denominator, the thickest, while 500,000 jobs go up in smoke.
 

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Keep the faith, hold on just a bit longer, ...not long now:

new entry-level Jaguar would need to undergo major re-engineering just two years after it was launched.
The details of the long-awaited Euro 7 emissions regulations, which are due for the 2026 model year,

- Jaguar's/JLRs next Saviour, just 3 years away.

Are you not entertained, as they say?

Holloway knows JLR hasn't got 3 months, never mind 3 years, for some nebulous, 'Powerpoint' as Baron would say, '1-Series/A-Class/A3-'Killer''.

It's the faction within JLR, led by Jaguar head designer Thompson for fairly obvious reasons - the clue's in the title - plus their mates in in-house mag Autocar lobbying for Jaguar, the brand, the whole thing, to survive, with Bombay making the decision in the next few weeks - it's made already by the way - about 2 years ago.

JLR is leaderless, rudderless and everything-less. This allows factions to push their vested-interest case, to the possible/probable detriment of the company.

Jaguar was an obvious binning case in 2016, post the XE, XF II catastrophes, and again in 2018/early 2019 with the I-Pace one, and again by the E-Pace complete dud.

Bombay's choice was obviously to be rid of the whole company, on the back of the huge, fake song and dance for the I-Pace, hence the kitchen sink thrown at selling it in late 2018/early 2019.

That failed obviously, so the need to deal with Jaguar came back.

As I've said, over and over though, JLR's real problem was never Jaguar, but Land Rover. Jaguar was always, since the 1970s, a case for a brand way beyond its time, a cat with 99 lives.

The whole 'Range Rover Phenomenon' thing only worked with the Brits themeselves - an echo chamber of the BBC, Royals, fawning media, Middle England, Clarkson Top Gear etc.

The reality is a collapsed 'Baby Range Rover', the Evoque, destroyed by the likes of the XC40, and a Land Rover brand that means nothing outside of the original 4x4 to 99% of people.

'Range Rover' only makes sense in the £100-150k+ bracket, as I said, re. Ineos/Ratcliffe taking it over, and making it the British version of Rolls-Royce and Bentley - very small volumes, very high prices, bespoke final trimming in England.

JLR simply can't compete in the mass market - too high costs, too inefficient, insufficient scale.

The Evoque got lucky with a decent, properly engineered, developed Ford/Volvo base, plus UK's bubble, Buy-to-Let housing market, and froth Services economy, in the early to mid 2010s. That's all.

Lightning struck once - the miserable £50k+ Evoque 'II' proves it.

Land Rover is Tata's problem, not the always long-dead Jaguar.
 

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Another journo hacking 'his thoughts' on the JLR Debacle from here, by the looks of it:


my thoughts:

  • '22,000' (Duffender orders) is obviously 'SOP', standard operating procedure BS from JLR - remember the almost verbatim thing from them with 'The Gamechanger' around 2 years ago - '25,000 confirmed orders', 'rapturously received', etc, which of course was a lie by a factor of around 5 - they still haven't sold more than 10,000 genuine I-Paces worldwide nearly 2 years on.
  • Campbell seems to have found some information independently, re. the startling insight of the Grenadier coming in Long- and Short wheelbases, but this is interesting: '£30-45k' - but that actually means the later SWB will be the from-£30k, and the LWB, the launch car, from around £40k, maxing out a tad above £45k for all options.
  • but this does mean, as I've said, that The Icon is ridiculously priced, as all JLRs, and once the Grenadier LWB comes out, with a BMW six-cylinder engine, G-Wagen near identical chassis, for £45k, and the Ford Bronco with a 300hp+ V6 for around $50k, compared to around $100k for a Ingenium I6 petrol Duffender, The Icon will repeat the same path as the £50k+ Evoque did against the XC40 and co. a couple of years back - nosedive.
  • that's why The Thing, and the knock-on cancellation of The Promo, the Bond flick, killed the Duffender stone dead, as its only hope was to get out, get pumped by promotion blitz, and sucker in clowns paying up to £/$100k, before they realised they'd been had - a plastic-fantastic, sub-£20k interior, allied with a wheezing, real ~20 mpg 4-pot diesel, and the usual litany of Ingenium/JLR faults - half a dozen times back with the dealer in the first year, etc.
  • Campbell, the hack, then shows us he actually knows squat, by saying this:
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' The new model[Duffender/'Icon'] costs more because of expensive technology including over-the-air software updates, and because it is built on an integrated chassis to allow better road driving as well as off-road capability.'

- clown knows nothing, or has taken JLR's shekel to write this crap.

That'll be why the 1979 G-Wagen, current G-Class, Willys Jeep, current Wrangler, Toyota Land Cruiser, Ineos Grenadier were or are also built with monocoques, like the Disco5 SUV cum '4x4' Duffender.

Jesus wept. No wonder we have no car industry, or industry in the UK other than the nail bar etc ones, when clowns like this hack write in specialist areas about things they don't know the absolute basics about.

So the actual (lied)figure was 11,000 anyway - for a 'Saviour' product, worldwide - not far off Gamechanger territory:

'Despite being configured online 1.6m times by enthusiasts, only 11,000 customer orders have been placed for the car so far, with a further 11,000 test-drive cars ordered by dealers, according to JLR’s annual results.'

- a bot could run 24/7 doing 'customer' configs, and 'test-drive cars' is not 'orders', they're demos/showroom/dealer management cars, that become £20k off 'ex-management'/'ex-demo' pre-regs, once the 'huge customer interest' wanes to nothing within six weeks, as per The Gamechanger, Velar, Disco5, etc.
 

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The FT commenters point out the bleeding obvious - the Duffender is hideously overpriced, drinks DERV for England, is so slow it's dangerous, will have JLR's usual faults, etc, and the other bleedingly obvious truth that the Ineos Grenadier is a home-run, a modern, original G-Wagen, with a fantastic BMW engine, for £45k, around half the price of a G-Class, and the excerable Duffender, in loaded six-cylinder form, and it can say 'Made in Britain', not Austria or Slovakia.

Clowns like Campbell, the FT hack, know nothing - not even understanding a monocoque from a ladder-frame chassis - and probably only got the job because of nepotism or/and the right, private school, so he can't see the stark staring obvious - the Grenadier will have, is having the appalling cynical, crap, ant-Zeitgeist, ridiculously priced 'Icon' for breakfast, lunch and dinner, and Ratcliffe has pulled off a masterstroke, played a blinder - and called JLR's/Speth's bluff - offering to buy the extinct Defender tooling, and then making good on his word to make a new one, that JLR wouldn't, when rebuffed.

'Red_Kite':

'The new Defender is expensive, heavy, slow and has poor emissions. Yes, it looks quite cool, but it's also massive. I own a Discovery Sport, but the new Defender would not fit in my garage. I can see it having niche appeal, but not being a massive volume seller for JLR in the way of Evoque, Disco Sport or even RR Sport. For my next car I will be looking for something that is more environmentally friendly and efficient. The new Defender can't fit that bill and I suspect many others will feel the same. JLR also have a massive emissions problem with the new EU regs coming in next year. There are big fines coming their way. Again, the heavy, slow new Defender only creates more of a headache in that regard.'

- this is not news. Speth knew all this - too big, too heavy, too gas-guzzling, too high CO2/BiK etc back in 2016, when this thing was a year or so into Concept/Design, and the 'engineering' people knew that its core engine would be the 4-pot Ingeniuj diesel, a p!ss-poor, asthmatic engine, hauling a real Cd 0.4+, 3.5 tonnes gross weight vehicle = madness.

Speth must have fully expected that JLR would be gone by the time the Duffender launched. The whole plan was to get the I-Pace done - a massive lashup fired out the door, shop-windowed to sell the whole of JLR to an idiot, and then leg it - the Indians in Bombay and the senior JLR management.

The Duffender is the car you would come up with if asked to conceive a car LEAST suited to the 2020 environment - even before The Thing.

You would only have signed it off, overseen most of its 'development' - a rebodying of the Disco5 - if you were pretty sure you wouldn't be around to deal with its 2.5 tonne fecal impact with the rotating apparatus known as the 2020 smashed global economy, where only small/medium BEVs and PHEVs, or very, very cheap econboxes sell in mass numbers, and the .01% buy £1m+ toys, ...or Porsches.
 

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Remember that cock and bull story a month or so ago about JLR's SVO 'division' setting the world alight - 'record year', etc - looks like all those 'record sales' cars are now being fetched up from the wet grass in a field behind Ryton and given away to leasing companies, who can then knock them out for well under 20% of their rrp for a 2 year lease:


- a typically ~£110k car with a few options for £18k business leasing.

The giveaway is '2020 MY', which means these things are up to a year old, and contributed to those SVO '2019 record results', but now have to be got rid of - actually sold - given away at probably around £50k by JLR.

This is basically JLR doing Factoring - accepting income/cash now, for a hefty discount, the factoring/buying party then hoping, banking on the residual value of something like a 2 year old, ex-lease SVR, from a likely then bankrupt/extinct/new-ownership JLR, not being worth 2p.

If they can get £50k for them, they're quids in - which they won't, not even half that.

The Urus and co, stuff like the new BMW X5/X6 M, killed the RRSport SVR, which was SVO's only real line.

These real 700hp cars are in a different league to the real 500hp max RRSport SVR, which is why you never see it on YouTube channels anymore, except Mat Watson's paid, occasional tug of war malarkeys - cough, staged.

Of course it's the UK taxpayer that is getting reamed in all this.
 

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Millets, in the not too distant future, buy a tent, get a free Icon:


When your car is barely launched, and you're doing stuff like this, you know real orders are in counted on hands territory - just like the I-Pace was.

At least the I-Pace had Tata-salesman Charlie boy popping up with 'his' I-Pace, which was enough for a few thousand UK patriot(ard)s to follow suit, but Charlie can hardly be seen taking delivery of a massive Chelsea Tractor, that runs on derv, or does 10 mpg, petrol, pottering around Gloucestershire and Kensington, talking to his runner beans - 'have you seen my new planet-killer?'

So who, what to promote the Duffender? Spaffer? Armoured ride - 5 tonnes all up - and then there's the car's weight. Love to see an Ingenium pulling that.

Beckham's past it, and gone to Bentley's German bucks anyway.

Who else. Sparkle and Ginge? Who? And she's an eco-warrior - image, anyway.

I really can't think of who or what. Even SVR-loving 'Wazzer' Rooney is yesterday's man, and no present English footballer has any profile or personality - Premier League/'Big Time' football is like watching paint dry - it's a business, with all the fun, spontaneity and characters surgically removed from it.

It's best hope is probably if Brenda pops her cloggs very soon, and they pop the casket on the roof of a 110 instead of a gun carriage - corgis in the back. Surely 'Sir' Ralf can swing it - all Germans, you know.
 

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Yesterday's news - the I-Pace not selling in the States - or, more of Jaguar being associated with negative stories prior to its butchering/binning in a few weeks?:


I think the above is just a slow day for news, and piggy-backing on the fairly disastrous Eberhardt interview, which was meant to puff up Jaguar/JLR, with 'The Dick'.

The ID.4 mentioned in the Electrek piece has been leaked again, and looks, at the expected US price of ~$37-50k, to be a near complete I-Pace obliterator, as well as real competition for the thrown together Terrible Tesla Twins, Model 3 and Y:

http://instagr.am/p/CBtP2ZGnfuc/
 

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The time for positioning EVs as halo vehicles worked for Tesla in 2013 as the Model S hit volume production as the fastest accelerating regular production car in history, the only sedan that could sit 7, etc.

Now the market has shifted. EVs need to be cost-competitive with ICE options and be excellent vehicles in their own right.

Going forward, vehicles like the Taycan, are halo vehicles because they are good all around and are from a brand with halo reputation. They are not halo because they are EVs.

If Jaguar or anyone else think the I-Pace of I-XJ can be halo simply by having an electric powertrain they are in for a a ton of hurt.
 

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When Aston Martin was having one if its troubles a few years back, the media, industry observors and academic 'experts' all chorused as one that the obvious thing was for uber-successful, money-flushed JLR to take it over, to save a fellow English motoring icon, for a relative five bob - I don't hear them now:


- looks like straightforward fraud to me, pledging the same collateral for two debts.

As the man said: 'when it gets serious, you have to lie'.

McLaren, as I said, is/was just a 'mini-me' JLR - up with, if not surpassing old, has-been, laggard Ferrari, according to the media and numerous paid internet forum shills, but in reality a single 'Heinz 57 Varieties' 10 year old car, with a 20 years old plus engine, knocked/thrown together by YTSs, or whatever the name is now for poverty-pay 'trainees', or young, no-contract, temp. staff, "Modern Apprenticeships" I think - which of course is basically the taxpayer paying McLaren's labour bill - for asking prices of average over quarter of a million pounds.

The Joke lasted almost a decade, like JLR too, but like all bubbles, frauds, suddenly collapses, one miniute, 'eat our dust, Ferrari', Jezza being paid £millions to say 'the P1 smashes the LaFerrari and 918' on licence fee-paid, globally-reaching TV, the next, 'Darren, stick that spanner on eBay when you're not sweeping up, and see how much you can get for it'.

Now it's progressed to flat-out fraud, like a common thief applying for multiple mortgages on the same property.

But that's what these people are, and always were - common, lowlife, uber-greedy crooks - who just exploited the boom in toy cars post the 2008-9 Crash, driven by the banks creating money out of thin air with 'loans' for property speculation, which saw central London property rise by around 200% between 2009 and 2017, and around 100% nationally on average.

Now that the bubble has collapsed, only the true makers survive - Ferrari, Porsche, Lambo, Pagani, Bugatti, etc.

The jokes, McLaren, Aston Martin post Ford's silly largesse, JLR, and Nissan-Renault are all either dead, or being protected as too big to fail.

Unfortunately for McLaren, the Bahrainis don't seem to have the same pull over the British crooks/'elites' as the Indians.
 

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'Hi-tech flagship to rule luxury segment' - is Haymarket prepping to change horses?:



Autocar has gone completely to pot:

  • 'flagship model expected to be called the A9 E-tron. ...The Mercedes EQC rival' - they mean EQS rival
  • they say the A9 e-tron is due 2024, and then illustrate it with a '22' plate
  • and of course, the people in Ingolstadt have the XJ in mind as the A9's benchmark rival as much as they have the Morris Marina
They've lost the plot down Twickenham way, due to the old stagers being pushed out, and the kids/interns throwing the rag together, due to hardly any real sales - kept afloat by JLR's PR account - the UK taxpayer.

But it does look as though they realise the JLR Thing is nearly over, and having to think about new, key clients, if the rag is to survive at all.
 

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If you read the Pistonheads 'Will Coronavirus affect secondhand car prices?' forum thread, now nearly 400 pages of car dealers and proxies like estate agents saying 'No!', 'quite the opposite, ha!', you'd think UK has again lit the afterburners, doing another 2009- Booming Britain thing, the ponzi of house prices, and hence car buying, and mindless consumerism back in gear, but... , that's just 'dealers talking their book', and some terrified plebs buying cars when they normally took public transport, especially in London/South East of course, to avoid The Thing, and to an extent being forced to wear a mask.

The reality is the likes of Swissport today cutting 4,500 jobs, in the UK, and the £ being the peso of the 21st century - 'becoming an emerging market currency' - with UK's 'Economy' revealed as just nail bars and eating places, to support 70 million people, thinking they each deserve high-skilled wages for being in some kind of 'industry', which means printing trillions of said pounds to prop all this fantasy, mass delusion/insanity up, which of course then makes the £ toilet paper - not worth that actually, hence the excruciating fall of the pound over the last few weeks, but actually gone off a cliff, like Argentina post its silver wealth, but still the pretence of being a powerful, world currency, fully interchangeable, a reserve currency.

This is the 1970s, Healey to the IMF etc, without North Sea Oil, and with a near 50% larger real population, and most of them believing they are rock stars, or 'creative industry', and hence should be pulling down at least a million a year.

Fine, they will, very soon, just that that million will be pesos, and will buy you at most a week of shopping.

The crash, smash of the airline/travel industry - see Swissport etc - is far more important to 'UK Plc'/UK 'Economy' than 'The British Car Industry'. Heathrow is like a mini economy in its own right, with around 40,000 directs employed, and a multiple of that dependent. It dwarfs the whole of the UK car industry, and Gatwick is bigger than JLR, which is really just an assembler of imported parts.

Let the eejits believe that 'we're back to normal, let the good times roll again', and keep putting £500 on the price of a Range Rover each week - 'pent-up demand', factory not working for 3 months, hence shortage of supply, bounce-back loans, etc. - but the brave talk, designed to brainwash gullible fools to join the herd and consume like no tomorrow, and not be 'FOMO'ed', is really their desperation and panic talking, as even the thickest senses that everything has changed - not The Thing etc - but UK's phony economy and whole way of life/over-living, has been found out, ~50 years after it went pop in the late 60s,70s, but was 'saved' by massive credit/debt creation by the banks, primarily for property loans, and then bringing in around 20 million migrants over 30 years to prop up this bubble/ponzi.

I wouldn't touch any car, no matter how 'cheap', for the next 6 months. It'd be like buying a hole in the head.
 

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Somewhere in Bombay recently : 'Yeah, that's it, dump Jaguar, and that'll fix it':

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I suggest '225' is massively under-playing 'the Land Rover Problem', given that we know in UK a new Land Rover goes back to the dealership 4.8 times in the first year on average - 2018's figure, from memory - and will have got considerably worse in the last 2 years, with Ingenium, green labour, general chaos abroad in the company, etc.

2 problems for a Land Rover is Fairyland.

People/headbangers paying $100k+ for a Range Rover will go out of their way to excuse the car, just so to keep themselves sane - 'why the hell did I fall for the hype, and buy this pos?'

The UK headbangers call it 'character' - temps/trainees on <£10/hr, literally throwing together £100k cars.

JLR's problem was always LR, and specifically the awful, chronic, over decades, Solihull operation, its appaling endemic product quality, and the entitiled attitude of the many, many ar$eholes in LR management, the engineering side, who think there is some law of nature that says people will give their first-born for any crap that comes off their CAD screens, especially if they reside in the Home Counties, central London, or the North Riding.
 

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To score 190 and have one of the fewest fault cars suggests the stuff out of Castle Brom and Solihull(F-Pace) must be off the scale appalling:

These were the 26 highest-quality 2020 model-year vehicles in their segments, according to J.D Power IQS:
  • Small car: Chevrolet Sonic
  • Small premium car: Audi A3
  • Compact car: Kia Forte
  • Compact premium car: Genesis G70
  • Compact sporty car: Hyundai Veloster and Mini Cooper (tie)
  • Midsize car: Chevrolet Malibu
  • Midsize premium car: Cadillac CT5
  • Midsize sporty car: Ford Mustang
  • Upper midsize premium car: Cadillac CT6
  • Large car: Nissan Maxima
  • Large premium car: BMW 8 Series
  • Small SUV: Kia Soul
  • Small premium SUV: Jaguar E-Pace
  • Compact SUV: Hyundai Tuscon
  • Compact premium SUV: Cadillac XT4
  • Midsize SUV: Nissan Murano
  • Midsize premium SUV: Lexus GX
  • Upper midsize SUV: Kia Sorento
  • Upper midsize premium SUV: BMW X6
  • Large SUV: Nissan Armada
  • Large premium SUV: Cadillac Escalade
  • Minivan: Kia Sedona
  • Midsize pickup: Ford Ranger
  • Large light-duty pickup: Toyota Tundra
  • Large heavy-duty pickup: Ford Super Duty
Gee, I wonder what could be the difference with the E-Pace? Cough, Magna.

Let's face it, to make a balls up of building cars like the E-Pace, Evoque, Full-fat etc, is unforgiveable, given that their platforms go back to 2006, 2012/2003, etc, and the Ingenium is 5 years old, and the V6/V8 petrol - same thing - a decade plus/24 years old.

Magna shows that building a pretty damn ordinary car, the E-Pace, that goes back 90% or so to the 2006 Freelander, is not difficult, if you have a staff that's a few levels above kindergarten, and a management that knows what it's doing, not fighting each other, drawing up cunning PR stunts, issuing press releases, doing media interviews, or updating its LinkedIn profile.

Speth was right - and wrong. He wallked into JLR in 2010, and almost immediately picked up the phone to his mates in Graz, to do the Jaguar AWD system. His instinct within months, weeks, just walking around the plants and engineering facilities of Whitley and Gaydon must have been screaming to him: 'Get the F'ing think lock, stock and barrelled outsourced, now!'.

He went back to Magna for the I-Pace and E-Pace, but by then it was too late.

I think, looking back, this is what really lay behind Bhattacharyya's threat to move all JLR production to Poland or Mexico, made in 2014.

The frustration of Speth and the late Lord was that Solihull and co. were backsliding again, back to old habits, old ways, after the arm behind the back of Ford and BMW.

The more JLR and the media said JLR was a stunning success, making billions, the more this fed back into the plants and engineering sites.

The time to outsource most of JLR production was in the early, marginal years, of 2010/11.

That of course was also the reason to open Nitra, along with the £100m given by the EU - German and UK taxpayers.

Halewood always had a problem with quality, going back to the days of the Escort, and Solihull's goes back to the Ark, or 1948, with the Meccano Land Rover, which was chalk and cheese compared to the up-market Rover saloons - sub-Bentley positioning.

The success of Land Rover sowed the seeds of Solihull's endemic qiuality problems, and what we see today - the world's worst made cars - as they just had to make them, and the Army or the Colonies lapped them up.

Castle Brom was traditionally a car body making site post-war, but that craft tradition has long gone, hence the near Solihull/Halewood level of rubbish it produces now, from a no doubt thoroughly dispirited workforce.
 

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I suggest '225' is massively under-playing 'the Land Rover Problem', given that we know in UK a new Land Rover goes back to the dealership 4.8 times in the first year on average - 2018's figure, from memory - and will have got considerably worse in the last 2 years, with Ingenium, green labour, general chaos abroad in the company, etc.
I am always surprised, that cars like Porsche, Mercedes, Audi and even Volvo score so badly in tests like these. I'd normally think of those as some of the best cars, you can get. Is it the American consumer, who is very demanding or what? Or do those brands actually have a lot of faults?
 

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A £500m 'loan' to Tata - now where have I heard of such a thing before?:


Mayhem, Spaffer, Bliar/Brown and Camoron before them, all played like fiddles by Tata. What have the Indians got on the Brits? Photos? Guilt, The Raj/East India Company, Bengal Famine, Koh-I-noor? Randy Andy the Pedo's dossier?

Branson, a Brit after all, is told to go swing, but for the ex-dope peddlers for the East India Company with the Sassoons, the reply is, 'How much would you like this time, Mr Tata?'.

Is that it? The Tatas know too much, too much a part of the fabric of the 'British Establishment', going back three centuries, when all those 'blue blood', 'aristo' families got their real start and fortunes, their fabulous country piles, titles, ermin robes etc, from... the opium trade, and the silver, porcelain and other valuables extracted from China that came from it, not the largely cock and bull story sold to the plebs that England's/Britain's wealth and empire were manly built on moving African slaves and molasses around in the New World?

As many of the Guardian article commenters, not the obvious plants/shills, say -'why are we giving money to multi-billionaires, who evade paying tax in the UK, and have a record of looting the pension funds of the UK enterprises they own?'.

Why indeed. Because of the above. 'The British Empire' was really the Indian Empire, where India's 'elites' threw their lot in gleefully with the East India Company, and then The Raj, to loot their own compatriots, and parasite off the immense wealth being extorted from India, by enslaving the Chinaman to dope.

The Brits and the Indians are thick as thieves, literally, at the highest, 'elite' levels, founded centuries ago, hardly reported upon to the average Brit, who still thinks 'our' Special Relationship is with a country 3,000 miles away, that fought a war to kick us out, largely populated by Irishmen, Germans, Italians etc until recent times, that at best had no time for Britain, if not plotting to see it go under - The Fenians etc.

That's why Sunak will have thought... for five seconds, before rubber stamping Tata's application/blackmail demand, for its most recent leeching on the pleb non-evading, non-offshored UK taxpayer.

Imagine an ethnic Brit Finance Minister in India signing off a bailing out of an operation owned by BAe, or some enterprise owned by The Crown, or The Duke of Westminster, and to be told by The Times of India that 'it's good for India, and the obvious and right thing to do'. He/she would be lucky to escape Delhi without being lynched.

Brits get what they deserve. They prefer to pass their time and spend their energies watching football, or cookery shows, or getting worked up by some inane pap on Twitter, and then wonder why their country is the new Venezuela, without the oil, and their kids have no future, unless they're part of the 1%/.01%, who are above the law.
 

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I am always surprised, that cars like Porsche, Mercedes, Audi and even Volvo score so badly in tests like these. I'd normally think of those as some of the best cars, you can get. Is it the American consumer, who is very demanding or what? Or do those brands actually have a lot of faults?
- the more new, genuinely new product, you have, the more your score will fall - higher number of faults per car.

Audi for instance has at the monent almost all of its product range new, or heavily revised, with lots of new infortainment and electronics, with unsurprisingly its now oldest car, the outgoing A3, the 'best' performing small, premium car - largely because it dates back to the 2012 MQB VW VII platform, and so can be made almost with their eyes closed.

Same or very similar with Mercedes, which has just pushed MBUX through most of its products, which inevitably brings problems with customers, who hate dealing with a radically new interface system - until it becomes second nature.

Also similar with Volvo - lots of new product, S60 etc, and the Sensus interface, which would bewilder a lot of its largely over-50 clientele, plus, probably genuine problems with the S60, with the green labour bedding in, in South Carolina - BMW and Merc took years to straighten out their southern US operations, to get quality approaching that of their German plant operations.

JLR's problem is that it's making cars that are basically donkey's old, either going back to the 2006 Freelander, or the 2003 XJ, and even Ingenium is now 5 years old, and should have bedded down long ago.

Even ICTP is 3 years or more old. The main engine in the US is the V6/V8 petrol, which is ancient.

The I-Pace doesn't sell there, in the US, so won't have skewed the figures, and to be fair, Magna builds the car itself quite well.

The Germans and Volvo have an excuse, several, and these 'faults' will be mainly customers hating change, and dinging these makes for them, when they get a chance to grumble and whinge, with JD Power.

JLR's faults are myriad and manifold, from the least to the gravest, and the incidence much higher - '4.8 times a year on average a Land Rover goes back to the dealership in the first year'(2018).
 

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Squint not too hard, and that could have been, should have been Jaguar's mid-size(by US standard) EV saloon, the 'eXF', or modern eMark 2. Gorden Wagener seems to have a thing about classic Jaguar-esque proportions and overall vibe/look:


- it's a render of the 2021 Merc EQE, by the Dutch mag Auto Week. It's also got a hint of NSU Ro 80, a car that still astonishes over 50 years on.

If it looks like that, and there's no obvious reason why it shouldn't, it'll take sales from the 2016- E-Class, never mind the perhaps by then imploded Tesla, with Musk at the funny farm, or jail, or more likely 'Epsteined'.
 
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