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China also becoming more and more important to Volvo:

April January-April
20192020Change20192020Change
Europe27,9639,283-66.8%114,48379,793-30.3%
China12,19214,72420.8%42,07835,504-15.6%
US8,3673,866-53.8%30,42523,351-23.3%
Other8,0133,887-51.5%30,86925,001-19.0%
Total56,53531,760-43.8%217,855163,649-24.9%


- part of the reason the Swedes didn't commit hara-kiri with The Thing, unlike the Brits - they've got an economic future - China, Eurasia, One Belt One Road etc.

Not that they're not making bucks in the collapsed/collapsing US though - outperformed the fake -60% drop reported by JLR in the US in April.
 

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You know how important this vehicle(s) is by the attack on it by JLR(Autocar) - 'has it got suspension?', 'wooden brakes', '45 grand'... :


- this is the VW ID.4/Audi e-tron Q4/Skoda Enyaq etc, which will destroy not just the miserable Model 3/Y, but obviously also the twice the price I-Pace, hence Autocar's attempt to smother it at birth.

Less than 24 hours after Audi, whilst launching their 2021MY US offering, updates and so on, let it be known that the Audi version, the e-tron Q4, will be around $45k, Autocar tries to brainwash its handful of remaining cretinous, credulous readers that the Skoda version will be £45k, so destroying its case.

The single motor, largest battery version of the Enyaq will be around €35-40k, so could easily be £30-35k, for a car with real range of 'easy' 300 miles, and as much usable interior space as the actually heavier ICE/far-heavier PHEV(~2.3 tonnes) Discovery Sport.

That's why it's an absolute, real Gamechanger, and why Autocar is trying to wreck it.

It's big enough - but not too big - for 95% of buyers, whether in Europe, the US or China.

It's the first real EV - affordable as a one-car family/household, big enough, good utility, and crucially real range of 300 miles plus - achieveable without being a nerd.

It's the Model Y fraud-Musk promised, without the five year old(child) gimmicks - fart noises, games, and self-driving that will kill you/others - a car aimed at 35 year old mothers, not 35 year old infantile 'men'.

It's already in early production, as shown by 'Nextmove''s recent Youtube video - at Zwickau, along with the ID.3.

Overnight, it will make the Model 3, Y and I-Pace redundant, obsolete.

Who will buy a £70, 80k I-Pace when the ID.4 and its clones, later spin-offs, fast variants etc, do the same, or rather a lot more - 50% more range, 50% less charging times etc - for literally half the price?

We're not talking about 'late 2021', likely 2022/2023, as for JLR's ever-promised next 'world-beaters', we're talking about 6 months time.

That's what's panicked Autocar/JLR, and its pathetic hatchet job and blatant lie - the price - on the Skoda Enyaq.
 

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While JLR works furiously at issuing at least a dozen 'earth-shattering' new stories a day, on how it's working with NHS Heroes to Fight The Thing, and Save the World, everyone else is developing cars, making cars... , stuff that actual car companies do, especially ones not hiding behind The Thing and Lockdown, ones not praying for it to never end.

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- the EQE above, which will be out in early 2021, is exactly the car JLR needed.

Jaguar does not need an XJ critically. Yes it's the flagship, but that segment has shrunk, ...and shrunk, since the 2000s, never mind 1968, with only Mercedes, and to an extent Audi(the A8), making hay, while the sun shines in China and south east Asia, with thousands and thousands of Mercedes-Maybachs.

The EQE above would have been the perfect replacement for the totally non-selling XF II. The 5-Series/E-Class/A6 segment is far bigger than the S-Class's, espcially again in China, with chauffeur driven, long wheelbase etc.

The EQE even looks a bit like XF I. Jaguar's saloons actually have as much to with the Mark 2 as the later XJ. Jaguar needed a new Mark 2, that could have sold at least 50,000 units/yr globally.

An 'electric Mk 2', a true 'reinvented icon', with at least the internal space of the 2009-2019 XJ, in a footprint no bigger than the current XF's, and performance to worry an M5, would have really been a Gamechanger, and a world-beater - bit like the Taycan.

Every time I see a(nother) 'JLR/Thing/NHS Heroes/Lockdown' story, I cringe. I never thought I'd see this country so low, so pathetic, so contemptible, so emasculated.

What happened to our manliness?
 

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The Irish Gamechanger:


Enya, the singer(Clannad), sang the beautiful theme to 'Harry's Game'. The Irish Skkkkkooooda(Mr Flavin) is now singing the swan song of 'Ralf's Game-changer', and any pretence that JLR has a future beyond the next five minutes.
 

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'June' !!!!:


- 'ramp up' means anywhere back to normal - making 'New' Evoques and 'New' DSports no one was buying pre The Thing - could be end of June, later, even post the summer shutdown - which they'll probably take, to cover up the continuing overproduction/very little real demand situation.

This is - let's call it what it is - British Leyland in the 1970s - huge production disruptions - srtrikes, so-called wildcat walkouts - agent provocateured by MI5 agents/on the payroll 'trade unionists' - now in 2020 under the cover of The Thing, to hide years of massive overproduction, little and exponentially shrinking real demand, and owners/adminstrators/senior management who have over those same years systematically looted the company, leaving it a husk and a wreck, all covered over and conspired with by the government, state and media, who back in the 70s printed stories day after day about 'communist wreckers', 'Red Robbo', 'bolshie unions', 'workshy workforce' etc, and now print 'stunning' this', 'gamechanger' that, to achieve the same thing - throw the hoi polloi taxpayers off the scent, as to what's really happening to their country, and who's behind it and to blame for it.

'June' means 3 months or more of shutdown - almost a third of the working year, and yet we were told that 'the New Evoque had exceeded sales expectations'.

And what about getting back asap and making those thousands of PHEVs, to sate the massive pent-up demand for? No one wants a £50k+, 3-cylinder, 2.3 tonne Ingenium-engined JLR-'built' 'stunner'? Can't be true.

Halewood may never get off its 'starting' 1 shift. Halewood is the BA, Virgin Atlantic, Ryanair of Merseyside - post-furlough, looking at minmum 50% of the workforce being given the chop, and within a year, 'doing a Gatwick ' - being closed.

If JLR/the next owner/UK state needs to make Evoques and Dsports, they can put them in the broom cupboard of Nitra, with room to spare.

Or what's stopping JLR/the next owner etc, doing a Volvo, and satisfying real demand for these two with production from China, the Chery operation? Nothing, except the fallout of shutting Halewood.
 

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No one else seeing this?:

1. the country regressing to 2 year old status, 'celebrating' something that 99% never even lived through or could sensibly remember, which most sane countries left behind as a bad, nightmare memory, including the UK 1945 to circa 1995, with the exception of the Soviet Union, which turned the death of tens of millions into 'Glory', for propaganda, to keep the Little People down, and the country glued together, which the UK has now taken the baton from and amped up to levels that would have made Stalin blush, figuring of course, front and centre, 'the plane wot won the war', 'saved the Free World', the Spitfire, and 'the factory wot won the war', the Supermarine shadow factory at the then open countryside Castle Bromwich, east of B'ham's slums in Bordesley Green etc.

2. 'the factory wot won the war, saved Democracy... ' has been shut for now 7 weeks - having been shut for at least 50% of the time prior to that over the last year or so - and unikely to open before mid to late June at the earliest, so 3 months or more total shutdown, a feat not achieved by the Luftwaffe, causing at most a few shifts lost production in 1940.

So, has Speth, sorry, 'Sir', 'Prof', 'Fellow of the Royal Society', etc, etc Ralf Speth, and a band of oligarchs from Bombay, whose fortune rests on dope peddling for the East India Company, done what Hitler and Goering couldn't?

The answer has to be yes, surely.

And yet, ...and yet, not a word of this in the Pravda- on-acid UK media, bashing the already infantile-minded Brits into submission about their 'special country' - 2 world wars, 1 world cup', 'the oldest democracy', 'the most respected Royal Family', '1,000 years of Glorious History' - sounds like The Third Reich, no? - and why we MUST love our leaders, royals, betters, 'our' Plod, our' Heroes', 'our' this, that and the other, and why 'we are so lucky to live in this blessed country' ...oh, and don't forget, ever, the 'Evil Nazis'.

While the mindless, battered into senselessness by their media and state Brits wave their flags and watch their 'must-see' programming - the word is deliberate and literal - on their 60" Big Brother screens, hopefully all day - 'Stay Safe, Stay at Home, Watch the 24/7 Propaganda, pleb' - their real world is being destroyed, has been destroyed already, deliberately, not by the 'Evil Nazis', and a few retaliatory raids for the bombing of cvilians by the 'brave' RAF, first by 40 years of 'Free Market Capitalism' - Thatcherism, Monetarism, 'Trickle-Down', 'Greed is Good/Loadsamoney', selling houses and coffee to each other - 'The Booming UK Service Economy', which was just legalised plunder, looting and theft by the psycho greedy 0.01% and their morals-free, spines-free 1% lackeys in politics, media, and 'law and order', and now, because that debt bubble to replace real wealth for the plebs had to collapse, by The Thing - martial law by the backdoor to keep the plebs from revolting against the implosion of their already fake economy - 'Services', with a cinderella manufacturing sector - which turns out not to have been necessary in the UK, as the plebs adore their slavery and their leaders.

Castle Bromwich, 'the factory wot won the war, Saved Democracy, Freed the World' should have closed 40 years ago. It's been a cat with 9 lives. Egan's 1981-'89 Jaguar Cars was the foreunner to JLR 2008-now, all-show, marketing/PR, rotten, phony, bust, fraudulent underneath.

Egan got lucky with the collapse of the pound against the dollar, not long after he launched the privatised Jaguar. He then got ultra lucky flogging it to idiots from America, thinking they were buying the veritable Crown Jewels, which of course turned out to be sub Soviet trash - Browns Lane, and the abortion that was XJ40.

Ford poured money into Castle Brom, closing the past-it, also a wartime shadow factory Browns Lane.

Tata's first JLR CEO, Carl-Peter Forster, tried to close it in 2009-10. He was obviously lent on by PM Brown and his heavies - terrible PR.

That was a huge mistake. JLR, even in the 'boom times' of around 2011-2015/16, never 'loaded' Castle Brom, due to the serial flops/mega flops of XJ 2009-2019, 'All-New' F-type in 2013, and the Useless Twins, XE and XF II, in 2015. The XE was first built in Solihull, remember, but had to be moved almost straight away to Castle Brom, to try to give it and its then around 4,000 workers some work.

Since then, the complete flop of the 'volume' XE and XF II, it's been running on fumes, the most obvious candidate for closure in the global car industry.

But JLR couldn't/wouldn't do it - terrible/terminal PR for them and the UK brainwashing state - the two being the same of course - JLR/UK state.

So, we got the latest fairytale - 'New XJ/'eXJ' - CB's latest saviour, originally told to the £500 million donating to Bombay billionaires UK taxpayer plebs to be happening in 2020, launching probably at the Geneva motor show, and certainly in production within the year after XJ 2009-2019 finished at CB in July 2019.

All lies, fraud. CB had been closed more than open even prior to The Thing, due to real demand of around 50k/yr across 3/4 models - XE, XF, F-type and XJ, till July last year.

That's about a quarter to a fifth of its capacity, even with the remaining around 3,000 workers - they just assemble, remember, with the pressing and BIW operation being very automated.

It had to close. The Thing has given them this effective closure - no production for 3 months or more, after months, years of stop-go production at best - and all the wages paid by the UK taxpayer, and no PR hit from formal closure - nirvana for Tata Bombay.

BUT, even Jellyfish Spaffer and the clown Sunak will have to eventually pull the plug of state bankrolling of Bombay billionaires - most of UK large business will be back at work, in a form, by June, so keeping the furlough just for Tata/JLR will look a trifle odd, even for Sunak.

Summer would be an ideal time for Tata/JLR to 'announce' - slip out at 5pm on a Friday, maybe Saturday, that CB is not to re-open - 'New/electric XJ' postponed, pushed back due to financial strains of The Thing', so CB mothballed, etc.

And so endeth 'the factory wot won the war' - no, it was Stalingrad, Leningrad, the Kursk tank battle etc, the Allies giving trillions in today's money in weapons, machinery, etc to Soviet Russia to prop it up, that blunted and wrecked the German Army.
 

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Is Spaffer even worse than we thought?

He has 'sources' tell his press mates - he worked for The Telegraph, remember - on Wednesday/Thursday that: 'Lockdown is Over!' 'Get back to work!' caving to pressure from the backwoodsmen Tories and moneymen like Adelson and their UK equivalents, then gets his chain yanked by his direct owners immediately, so has 'sources' tell the plebs: No! Lockdown will continue(forever)!, and the Krankies woman in Scotland outbids his servility and desperateness to please their common masters, with: 'Lockdown will be lengthened(indefinitely) AND tightened!', and then Spaffer, sorry, 'sources', tell the press that: 'Quarantine to be introduced on all visitors to the UK, except the Common Travel Area of GB/N.Irleland/Ireland.

What a moron. But only to be expected from a chancer, an idol clown, and someone whose whole concern is to be loved, like the mummy's boy five year old he is.

He's now well and truly finished off UK plc.

Think of a car maker in the UK, and that 'car-making' in the UK is essentially assembling bits made by foreign companies. How will Nissan, Ford(engines) etc, and above all, JLR of course, be able to work with the engineers, sales reps etc of Bosch, Brose, Continental, Valeo, ZF etc, basically not being able to come to the UK, not to mention all the foreign-owned 'tier 1' assembly plants in the UK, now basically cut off from their mother operations in Germany, France, the US, Japan etc ?

It means the end of car making in the UK, and any other half-decent business, basically anything in UK that requires more than basic metal bashing, pouring cups of coffee, as we are a 40 years plus hollowed out 'service' economy - i.e. low/no skill, low wage, low/no capital/tech investment.

Of course to Spaffer this may as well be science fiction, as his only connection to '(F) Business', is the long removed from it landed gentry, probably lives most of the year in Monaco and the Caribbean, Lord Bamford(JCB).

If you are the Notting Hill set, and mix with the Cliveden(Astors) set, and the Chipping Norton set, and were raised in Eton and the Bullingdon Club, explaining how car making and in any way complex manufacturing in the UK is completely dependent of foreign knowhow, would be like explaining quantum physics to Amazonian tribes.

Spaffer has met his Waterloo. The spineless buffoon is caving in in multiple places and every five seconds, bounced between the one cabal demanding 'Get Back to Work', and the other, with Gates as the frontman, 'Lockdown Forever', and he is now a jibbering wreck, not even daring to appear in proper public and be questioned by real people - NOT HM Press/BBC/Sky, the pantomine of parlaiment, PMQs etc.

He wanted the 'Fing' job, so now he has to lump it, becoming a bigger clown by the day.

Unless those tens of thousands of mainly German engineers suddenly discover Irish ancestry, not going back further than grandparents, and can fly into UK via Dublin and Shannon, and do this before the end of the month, car-making in UK is officially over.

Well done you clowns, in Whitehall, 'the mother of parliaments', 'HM Press', 'the finest, most trusted broadcaster in the world, the BBC', etc.
 

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And things were going so well in Booming Britain - 'Britain is a very rich country'. I can't for the life of me think why 'They' had to do The Thing - 40 years of mass, crescendoing insanity and imbecility, believing that UK's economy was the modern version of alchemy, and people in 'Services', with no recognisable talent or skill, should be pulling down £100k/yr minimum:

As an example: One of my Dads friends has asked if I can go over furlough finances with his son. Son & partner have moved into a 550k house and just pre-Covid were putting in a 150k extension. 1st March - a new T-Roc and New 540i Touring on the drive @ £635pm.

Neither car have been driven since Covid and both have zero income and minimal savings. Got PCP holiday from BMWFS & VWFS. Other shockers were 2 x iPhone 11 Pro Max mobile contracts at £85 each[presumably a month] and £1,200 for house insurance through their mortgage provider. Changed the house insurance over for £280, although there are costs of about £110 to exit the other insurance - still quids in though.

- Mr & Mrs 'Middle England' in Spaffer's Paradise.

And that's why, Ladies and Gents, 'They' did The Thing - or a very large part of it.

It's the old, possibly apocryphal story about JP Morgan hearing the elevator boy discussing, asking for stock tips, realising all the suckers had been pulled in, and this was peak mania and time to sell, pull the plug - the 1929 Crash.

When airheads like Mr&Mrs above are as indebted as that, and believing all the state media tell them, they are the elevator boy.

They hadn't a hope of servicing that £1m+ total debt, never mind repaying it, once 'They' had pricked the debt/credit bubble, trillions created out of thin air, over the last 40 years, which allowed these gullible fools to believe they'd become millionaires, overwhelmingly through house price inflation - UK houses, pre The Thing, around 30 times what they were in 1980, while real median wages had barely moved since the 1970s, and gone down sharply for many - mass immigration etc.

Mr&Mrs Middle England-Airhead - they're nearly always double-barrelled now - 'thought' this obvious set up, by the .01%, would last forever, and they would have massive 'equity', in property, by their late 40s, maybe sooner.

They were 'marks' - millions, tens of millions of them in UK alone - vast majority of them voting for their hero Spaffer, who has now been ordered to pull the rug from under them - and complied, post the hospital thing anyway, meekly.

Now, post-The Thing', the reality is this - getting back to JLR, and its prospect for success or not:

Just had a text from a mate at a large group, he said he has started to see the BMW deals coming through.

He said they can now offer 1.9% across the rage as standard, may be able to negotiate better, on the 5 series touring BMW are also offering £10000, or more depending on model, as a finance contribution, and that is before dealer discount.

He said that is bringing the 540i Touring down to around £390 a month with £390 down.

£56,000
£11500 finance contribution
£8000 dealer discount
£390 deposit
£390 month
£19500 GFV 48 months.

£19000 over 4 years or £4750 a year.

To put that in perspective, that same deal before lockdown was £619 a month with £5000 deposit.
£34000 over 4 years or £8500 a year.

Anyone who doesn't think these sort of deals are not going to affect used car prices are deluded.
- same discussion in Pistonheads - see link above.

That means the best car in the world, the 5-Series Bimmer, is having to be punted out at basically 40% off.

Imagine what that means for XFs, and anything from JLR, with their preposterous prices.

BMW and the Quandts can take a bath, but JLR needs its ridiculous prices just to stay afloat.

40% off is just the start. There are no buyers, in Lockdown-smashed UK, so it's immaterial anyway.

JLR hasn't a prayer. Just today we have the state/media giving it maximum propaganda, again, with the visor bollocks on all channels. They, the state, Spaffer, Whitehall etc, don't seem to have realised the game is over, and this business as usual PR bollocks is pointless.

Chery's obviously not buying JLR - the last lie - and nor is anyone else.

Castle Brom will effectively never re-open. Time for the clowns/'leaders' to come clean, face facts, and tell the mindless plebs that their icons, world-beater car brands, are no more.

There are no diversions left - VE bollox, visors, NHSHeroes etc. There are no buyers in JLR's main, only real market, the UK, and JLR can't make money at 40% off. End of.
 

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Anyone skilled at reading body language, eye movements in particular ❓
 

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'Rawdon Glover' - real person? JLR - real company?

Back to the real world.

Remember that 'car that JLR needed' - see above on this thread - the 'Icon-reinvented' Mark 2, but electric, also known as the Merc EQE? Well, JLR, Jaguar, really needed that car:


http://instagr.am/p/B_7LDrEpJW2/
- if the production car looks anything like that, it will not just finish off the most demented ravings of JLR fanboys and paid shills like 'Chewy' on 'Gamechanger II', the now 2021/2022 eXJ, but also the Taycan/e-tron GT - the benefits of a real dedicated EV platform, and a confident, at the top of his game designer, Gorden Wagener, not 20 years over the hill, gone to seed Ian Callum and his what is it? I-Pace.
 

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Here's a thought:

it's BMW that Jaguar and the media not so secretly lust after, aspire to, want Jaguar to be up with, benchmark themselves against, but it's Mercedes which is actually providing the template for what Jaguar should have been, become by now, if it had been a normal, evolving company over the last 50 years or so.

The EQE is the Mark 2 for its day, electric, but slinky and sporty. The new S-Class(W223) has the vibe of the Mark X/420G, with its wide majesty and grace.

The AMG GT is easily more convincing as the inheritor of and modern-day E-type, not the bloated, bodged, cynical 'F-type'.

'Mercedes-Maybach' has become what 'Daimler' was to Jaguar - full-circle justice really, with the dubious use of the Daimler name.

Instead of trashing Jaguar's heritage, as Callum did with 'New Gen', Wagener seems to have gone back to the classic 50s and 60s cars, and maybe consciously Jaguar's.

The new Mercedes SL/AMG GT II, due mid to end of next year, should show more of this - design-led, excellent mechanicals, but majoring on visual, 'sensual' appeal, like the best classic Jags did.
 

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Arlington Automotive a supplier to JLR have called in the receiver blaming the current business downturn as the main reason for its difficulty.
 

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Arlington Automotive a supplier to JLR have called in the receiver blaming the current business downturn as the main reason for its difficulty.
- were some of the old Remploy factories.

JLR will have been Arlington's biggest customer.

You can only hold on so long - 7 weeks of nothing, weeks/months more to come for Halewood/Castle Brom/Wolverhampton to a degree, and years of collapsing delivery schedules prior to that.

The Coventry factory has around 200 workers, I think.

While McGovern struts around, Speth picks up his Royal Society fellowship but is otherwise unseen, Andy Street is the Invisible Man, and Spaffer should be, the good ship JLR smashes into the rocks, and the population discuss the definition of Alert.

What a fornicating crazy country.

We have reaped what was sown for decades - bullshitters, pc quotas, nepotism and a class system back with a medieval vengeance above competence.
 

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- were some of the old Remploy factories.

JLR will have been Arlington's biggest customer.

You can only hold on so long - 7 weeks of nothing, weeks/months more to come for Halewood/Castle Brom/Wolverhampton to a degree, and years of collapsing delivery schedules prior to that.

The Coventry factory has around 200 workers, I think.

While McGovern struts around, Speth picks up his Royal Society fellowship but is otherwise unseen, Andy Street is the Invisible Man, and Spaffer should be, the good ship JLR smashes into the rocks, and the population discuss the definition of Alert.

What a fornicating crazy country.

We have reaped what was sown for decades - bullshitters, pc quotas, nepotism and a class system back with a medieval vengeance above competence.
Interesting that Professor Kevin Morley, erstwhile boss at Rover, resigned from Arlington board last month.
 

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Interesting that Professor Kevin Morley, erstwhile boss at Rover, resigned from Arlington board last month.

uh oh:

  • involved with John Moulton/Alchemy - the man/outfit that tried to out-do The Phoenix Four in plundering BMW's £500m dowry to Rover Group
  • key 'skill': marketing - i.e. scouse/Irish genes gobshite
  • involved with 'Business' schools - Aston and Warwick
  • involved with private equity - Fidth Avenue outfit Cartesian Capital Group had their teeth into Arlington
All this, and Arlington's main customer being JLR, and probably secondary Nissan(Sunderland), meant their chance of survival beyond five minutes equallued zero.

Just a microcosm, encapsualtion of what happened to British 'Industry' over the last few decades, when greed was let rip rampant, with the full blessing and participation of the state.
 

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oh shhhhh t, this outfit had to have their pound of flesh too - a £95m 'refinancing' to Arlington last year:


- so ultimately, ex-Remploy workers on around £7/hr had to fund the investments and expected, double, triple-digit returns of two private equity outfits, thousands of miles away in NYC, with many, many £1,000/day intermediaries advising, tax lawyers etc, PLUS supporting the Morley types, based on supplying a main, dominant customer that itself had been looted by an even bigger band of bandits, thousands of miles away in Bombay.

Poor bastards.
 

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'Back to Work' exposing the JLR Sham:

JAGUAR Land Rover has maintained its production line shutdown for another week despite the Prime Minister encouraging manufacturers to bring back their staff.

- why would they return when The Thing was the godsend to cover airfields full of 'stunners'?

A spokeswoman for the car manufacturer said: “Jaguar Land Rover plans to gradually resume production from 18th May, starting with manufacturing plants in Solihull in the UK as well as in Slovakia and Austria.
- in other words, we'll not even bother re-opening two of our three assembly UK plants, and we'll pretend to make a few cars at Solihull from next week, as we don't want to add to the tens of thousands of Full-fats and so on at Bruntingthorpe etc, and besides, we're being paid by the UK taxpayer still, until at least June, to do nothing.
 

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That's odd, Chery was buying it, or rather had bought it, as reported just a few weeks ago:

Jaguar Land Rover Owner’s India Business Has No Value, CLSA Says


- perhaps a slip of the pen/fat finger on the keyboard, by a few, okay, several hundred top journalists in Bombay and elsewhere, ...simultaneously - it can happen, just about 10 trillion to 1 against chance.

So, Tata paid the same flunkies, again, hacks in the 'serious' Indian press, to print the latest 'Tata's millstones, Tata Motors passenger cars and 'jewel in the crown' JLR, flogged to Chinese Chery' lie, after the lies of JLR sold to PSA, sold to BMW, sold to Geely, sold to Apple, sold to the corner shop, failed.

It was desperate, fraudulent nonsense - to boost/prop up the TM share price, hence Tata Sons, on its last legs due to the collapse of autos and steel.

In normal times, in a normal country, with men with a backbone, Tata and its minions and lackeys would be in jail on multiple counts of conspiracy to defraud.

“JLR is the only driver of its valuation,” analyst Amyn Pirani wrote in a report
- total bollox. JLR makes TM domestic look like Porsche AG.

A 'company' not even working, just PR at full tilt - NHSHeroes, 'Hero Duffender', 'Icons', outing for a 2 year old 'Gamechanger II' in the arctic circle, a 5 year old 'New XF' wrapped in camo, etc.

The Indians know this. They know that they've been caught out badly by their latest lie/fraud - 'the done-deal sale to Chery' - so this 'independent' analysis by CLSA is to cover that - 'why would anyone buy something with no value, hence why Chery didn't' - but to reinforce and buttress the notion that JLR is Tata Motor's/Tata Sons' 'jewel in the crown', an 'asset' of huge value, to try to get it sold.

All their eggs are now plainly and clearly in trying to get JLR offloaded to some moron - the Saudis?

VW were almost lumbered with Tata Motors domestic a few years ago, but woke up in the nick ot time - buy the outfit behind the self-combusting Nano?

Tata motors, Tata Steel, hence Tata Sons/group have been destroyed by real, heavily investing, hard-working competition.

They're simply trying to salvage some cash out of decades, centuries of a protected home market, maximum cash extraction, minmum/zero investment, and a company whose whole point is to be oligarchs, feudal lords of billions of serfs, who see them as national heroes - not unlike the British 'elites', British 'industry' and the adoring plebs.

The real world, Japan, China, Germany etc, crashed in, and destroyed this rotten system within a decade or so, just as British industry wilted and disappeared from the 1960s, post the closed Empire/Commonwealth market.

JLR is the last to fall, the hybrid runt of these two failed feudal systems, both of whose real wealth came from drugs - the British East India Company - and through that, draining China of its wealth.

Well, now two centuries or so later, it's payback time, with China, Geely, Chery and so on, not being used anymore by Indian 'elites' to offload their rubbish.

If JLR is such a prize, such a valuable asset, the 'jewel in the crown', where are its April China sales figures, where VW, Volvo etc have rebounded, up even on April 2019?

They take us all for idiots - as is the Indian/UK feudal system - Untouchables/Plebs/'Middle-England'/the mass media-swallowing morons.
 
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