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DiscoSport for 60% of the price, with a working powertrain, better build quality, and a maker who might be around for more than the next 5 minutes:



- that's basically the Freelander that LR should have built, would have built, if Ford was still its owner, and not money-grubbing morons who want to make everything 'premium', or an 'icon', or 'stunning', in order to hike the price 50-100%, starting with Ford's 'LRX', which became the Range Rover Evoque under the German mercenary Speth and the Bombay bandits.

And this will be within a couple of weeks followed by the New Bronco, which wil do the same to 'New Defender' - up to half the price, working engines, better quality, dealer backup, a serious maker, etc..
 

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The worse the reality, the more the propaganda that everything is fantastic - Communism 101:



£4 or so to read the orgasms of Cropley, and the 'inside knowledge' of Holloway, on their paymaster JLR - UK taxpayer.
 

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And reality crashes back in again:

'N.Y. auto show postponed till Aug. because of epidemic'


https://europe.autonews.com/automakers/ny-auto-show-postponed-till-aug-because-epidemic

No Time to Die Bond film delay kiboshed the New Defender. NYC show postponed kiboshes JLR '2.0' - post the failed Sale of 2018/19 - with the presentation of the 'Stunning' eXJ - out of nowhere - the turned back on 2018/19 I-Pace with a rear ovehang.

JLR is all about London, NYC and LA. Its real sales elsewhere are minimal.
 

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Couldn't possibly be the Land Rover franchise, could it?:

'Lookers delays annual results due to fraud investigation

Ailing car dealership to look into suspicious transactions at one of its divisions'


https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/mar/10/lookers-delays-annual-results-fraud-investigation-car-dealership

- the gimp, Andy Bruce, Lookers' ex-CEO, was a manager at Land Rover in the 80s and 90s, and before he 'resigned', he blamed all Lookers' problems on Brexit.

Andy was up to his armpits with JLR on fake Land Rover sales, through Lookers' flagship Land Rover dealers, West London above all.

Andy would have been recompensed from both ends - bonuses for performance from Lookers - 'record Land Rover sales' - and from JLR, and his old cronies there, for being their top units-flogging dealer.

Only problem was, it was all fake, going back to 2016 at least, and not at all to do with Brexit, rather Dieselgate, JLR's real sales implosion, caused in addition by joke reliabilty cars, ridiculous prices, crap dealers, untrained staff etc, and last but not least, the bursting of the all-important London house price bubble, in 2015/16, which killed off so many airheads buying/PCPing £50k Evoques, and BTL landlords buying £80-100k Range Rover Sports.

Andy, being a good money-grubbing salesman type, would have covered this all up, reporting to his board and chairman exponential sales growth from the 'booming' Land Rover franchise, and lining his pockets with £millions in bonuses and backhanders on top of his base pay.

Greed, simply. A microcosm of UK's/London's 'booming' economy, now being revealed as the opposite - greed boomed, nothing else.

Brexit was Andy's excuse, cover story. JLR's/Tata's now is Cornonavirus, China, to cover up 5 years of bustness and real sales collapse, starting with China in 2015.

Come on Plod, pull your finger out. Those evil 'Hate Criminals' on Twitter can wait.
 

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But, but... JLR's PR contractor has just today proclaimed that JLR is about to stun the world, again, with not one, not two, but THREE WORLD-BEATERS, even more stunning, orgasmic and world-beating than The Gamechanger, and the reskinned Disco5 known as 'Iconic-Defender':

'Tata Motors share price hits double digits after 11 years'

https://www.businesstoday.in/markets/company-stock/tata-motors-share-price-11-year-low-coronavirus-jlr-china-sales-slump/story/398014.html

It's almost as if no one takes the comic Autocar seriously. £4 to hear about Steve Cropley's lastest orgasm over a JLR press release is good value.

Imagine that, the joke Aston Martin has shares now worth two of Tata Motors'.

Anyone buying anything now is either 'Mister apex of the pyramid', calling the shots, and so knowing when to buy back in, or is a certifiable moron.

The AML buyers today are certainly of the latter.
 

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JLR's death certificate will state cause of death:

1. Dieselgate
2. Chinese(Coronavirus)

Real cause:

I leased a brand new jaguar e-pace and within 2 weeks the car went into limp mode on the motorway. Jaguar assist attended and advised it was a DPF issue and the dpf was replaced. 10 months on and I am now on my 5th DPF.

It is currently in the garage as the warning light came on again within 5 minutes of driving it off of the forecourt after having a new DPF. The jaguar garage have advised that there is a brand new software update relased this week that is required along with another new DPF (It had a brand new DPF only 4 weeks ago!) Is anyone aware of this 'brand new update' I'm concerned that they are misinforming me.

I currently have a complaint with the lease company as I dont want the car anymore.
- limp-mode on a UK motorway is the state's method of disposing of 'useful idiots'/'useless eaters', getting down the pension bill. You really think this 'smart' business is not intended?

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=85&t=1859084

£50-100k cars that would have shamed Ford Dagenham in the 70s and Soviet Lada.
 

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I think we've found the source of the insane, almost 20% ramp in AML's share price yesterday:

The order book currently stands at just over 3000 I believe. That's with no dealer demo cars available to prospective customers til next month (April). So for c.2700 orders, something must have been done right for that many orders of a car nobody's driven yet. The c.300 others are dealer demos (1 x static, 1 x dynamic).
- 'NFC 85 Vette'

Where’s the 3000 orders you cite referenced from?
Someone who works for AML - the car's proving to be quite successful thus far, even if PH thinks it's rubbish.
- NFC 85 Vette

etc.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=23&t=1818255&i=100

Seems Palmer has thought, 'if you can't beat them, join them', and so done 'guerilla marketing' like JLR - pay people to plant stories, make comments all over the internet, saying how well things are going for the shill's client, and how stunning all their products are.

trying too hard, though:

If we boil this down, to avoid any confusion - the car is not yet in showrooms to demonstrate, and yet 2700 orders have been taken, the rest being 2 per dealer (on average). There isn't the swathes of cars being built and forced upon dealers - that's something McLaren did a lot, and something Aston Martin did with Vantage and DB11, but since December have cut supply - so if you want a car new, you spec one, there isn't going to be a surplus of stock going forward, and it follows the practice Ferrari have down quite successfully.

Everyone who has driven the DBX, be it a pre-production, Verification Prototype or near-production, have universally praised it. The DBX training for dealers has been based around back-to-back assessments of the DBX against both the Urus and Benteyga, as these are the cars the DBX is aimed at. As a complete package, the majority of those who've driven it, say it's the best package overall, and handles like a sports car, not like a 2 tonne, high CoG barge.

The problem for the Urus is that an RSQ8 does the same job for much less money, looking quite similar i.e. not understated, and the Benteyga is becoming increasingly long in the tooth.
And, if we avoid further confusion - that 3000 figure has come from not a news source but a random Pistonheads user who "has a buddy who works at Aston Martin HQ".
- desperate times, desperate people doing desperate things, making themselves look even more desperate.

Whatever happened to capitalism? Where the non-best just die, and go away quietly, accepting they were beaten, not good enough, fair and square? What is this pathetic non-manliness, where the mediocre and crap hang on like a non-flushable t'urd?
 

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Where's Plod?:

'Lookers’ chief operating officer resigns amid falling share prices'

https://www.am-online.com/news/dealer-news/2020/03/12/lookers-chief-operating-officer-resigns-amid-falling-share-prices

Lookers' fraud is the same as JLR's fraud - 'record sales', 'stunning success' - trebles all round.

Are the SFO and the chief constables of many forces with Lookers activity on their patch too busy funny handshaking with partners at the Big 4 auditing firms down the golf club or Champneys, who no doubt will have done Lookers' books, as well as JLR's?

Lookers is probably just the most egregious example of massive, tens, possibly hundreds of millions of pounds fraud perpetrated as a result of the enormous, tens of billions of pounds JLR Fraud thing over the last decade.

The Tatas, Mistrys get £billions;
Speth and one or two cronies, sales and finance directors, get tens of £millions
Andy Bruce, ex-Lookers CEO, personally gets several £million

- all financed by mug PAYE UK Taxpayer - median wage around £400 a week, before tax and deductions.

- Welcome to Insane Hell - 2020 UK, where 'The Law' protects and abets the filthy rich to rob the poor, and hopefully have them commit suicide or die on drugs.
 

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But, but Stroll put in loads more money - scout's honour - so why is AML reacquainting itself with its real value again - zero?:

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b&q=LON:+AML&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAONgecRowS3w8sc9YSn9SWtOXmPU5OIKzsgvd80rySypFJLmYoOyBKX4uXj10_UNDdNSTJKSU9INeBaxcvj4-1kpOPr6AABfV1VfSAAAAA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj5nJ2T7J7oAhVLTsAKHS7UCR0QsRUwNXoECAoQAw

Stroll put in nada, just as he did a month or so ago, with headlines of '£500 million injection'.

Bamford of JCB might have tossed in a few quid for his mate Spaffer, but that's all that went in.

Stroll did that 'further £20 million invested' late last week to counter the falling like a stome share price, and suppliers and key workers taking their ball home - they would know from inside and whispers that the jig's up.

Doesn't matter now anyway, obviously, same as JLR.

Spaffer, Stroll, Bamford, 'the system', can say Aston's collapse was due to Corona - not insider looting and a fraudulent IPO over the last couple of years, and Stroll's fake 'rescue', which was just about getting Aston's name for his joke F1 team - for free.

And F1 is shut down too - but Stroll is a fantastic businessman, right, self-made to several billion dollars worth. Yeah, right.

Stroll was just getting some asset for next to or literally nothing, as Aston was in firesale territory, but now is burnt himself, with F1's shutdown.

Stroll is 'lower paygrade', who wasn't on the memo circualtion list for what was coming down the pike.

The real big boys were selling their shares in January, till mid Feb, so were either Nostradamus or were tipped off that this 'virus out of nowhere' was about to do 2008 Crash x10.

Like the guys who did the Put options on airlines on 9/11 - amazing foresight.
 

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Oh calamity, calamity !


Easy Come, Easy Go: How Tata Motors (NSE:TATAMOTORS) Shareholders Got Unlucky And Saw 84% Of Their Cash Evaporate
Simply Wall St

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Some stocks are best avoided. We don’t wish catastrophic capital loss on anyone. Spare a thought for those who held Tata Motors Limited (NSE:TATAMOTORS) for five whole years – as the share price tanked 84%. And it’s not just long term holders hurting, because the stock is down 50% in the last year. The falls have accelerated recently, with the share price down 49% in the last three months.

We really hope anyone holding through that price crash has a diversified portfolio. Even when you lose money, you don’t have to lose the lesson.
 

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Coronavirus to JLR's/Tata's, Lord Bamford's pension-pot rescue:

Among the manufacturers contacted by the government were JCB, the carmakers Jaguar Land Rover, Honda, Vauxhall and Ford, and Dyson, which operates factories in Asia.
https://www.ft.com/content/7ebb238c-67c7-11ea-a3c9-1fe6fedcca75

Spaffer channelling his 70s childhood - Dad's Army and Blue Peter - sticky backed plastic and cereal packets to make sophisticated ventilators:

The document included links to a YouTube video with a description of a simple ventilator and an academic paper published in 2010 containing a proposed system for a rapidly deployable device.
No doubt the JLR one will be:

- 'premium', 'stunning', 'orgasmic' - Dr Cropley's assessment
- cost 2 to 3 times everyone else's
- need 5 trips a year back to the maker for 'updates'
- need a multi-billion grant alongside to a 'world-leading research institute', one that is a front for Tata, i.e. WMG
- need rubber-stamping certification by the Dept. of Health and the NHS that it runs for 300 minutes non-stop, and is a 'Gamechanger'.

- Speth will get a Barony, for being the modern-day Lord Beaverbrook, for sorting out Britain's wartime-footing supply chain, producing over 5,000 ventilators a day at JLR's peak production in 2022 at Castle Bromwich, the former home of 'The Defender of Democracy Spitfire', now 'The Saviour of Bombay Billionaires Electric-Ventilator', a snip to the eternally grateful British taxpayer, at just £1 million each.
 

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If only JLR was registered in the US, it could be flogging its debt hand over fist to the Fed, say $50 billion, pledging in return a free service, and a set of car mats.

Not to worry, I'm sure the new fat bloke at the BoE and the schoolboy at the Treasury will do the same for 'our' massively bust parasites/'stunning world-beaters' later this week, if not later today.
 

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£ falling like a stone, UK property 'impossible to value', i.e., like the £, impossible to keep up with its constant fall:

Investment firm Aviva has suspended trading in its UK property fund saying that the the coronavirus has made it impossible to correctly value the assets that it holds.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2020/mar/18/markets-government-stimulus-pledges-ftse-dow-recession-business-live

- nowt to do with CoronaThing. CoronaThing is just the label by which 'They', the billionaires/trillionaires, pull the plug on the idiots who thought 2009-2020, and 1980-2020 was real, normal - not the biggest theft, con job in human history, with the obvious fallover at the end, which had to blamed on something else.

Why is the Pound being hammered, against even basketcases $ and €?

Because, UK's economy, 1980 to now, is, or rather was now, the biggest fraud, mass brainwashing programme in the world - the biggest ponzi in house prices, cost of living, and 'wealth' conveyed to the little people as a 'Booming Economy', the envy of the world, London the only Global City, millions of entrepreneurs, building up their businesses from scratch, in a vibrant 'Third Way' economy, etc.

Was BS, transparent to even the thickest twit at the get-go in 1979/80, but somehow the British, English especially, embraced this obvious con-job with open arms, and never stopped telling the rest of the world what an enormous success it all was, and how they needed to follow, hence one of the main reasons for Brexit - to get away from sclerotic, failed, left behind Europe.

Even the Euro is appreciating against the pound.

That Pound was built on outsourcing, privatisation, which meant poverty pay for millions of workers, or benefit sanctions by DWP/Atos, leading to many suicides, or people just dying from giving up.

Now, we have at least 10 million 'workers' who have no income, and no safety net under them. Hence the freefall of 'The British Economy'.

The only economy in the UK since the early 80s has been 'FIRE', selling hovels to each other for 20-30 times what they cost 40 years ago, and The City taking fees from the world's money launderers and tax evaders, channelled into offshore trusts, most in 'The Crown''s tax havens, Channel Islands, Isle of Man, Gib., Caymans and so on.

That's not an economy. Not for 70 million+ people anyway. A few hundred thousand 'right tie' connected ones at most.

And so front-man Spaffer will be given a pre-written, non-voted on Bill to present to the country, which literally locks down these 69.5m+ now bankrupt idiots, that thought they lived in:

a) a rich/very rich country
b) a free, democratic country.

Ha, ha, suckers.

Those '£1m+' terrace hovels in outer London, which would cost at most £50k to rebuild, are now falling back to their real worth at the same speed as the Pound Sterling and the UK Economy.

By the way, to see the true value of 'the pound in your pocket', today, a pound, 16 ounces, of (sterling)silver is around £160, whcih gives an idea of how much the pound has been devalued over the last 110 years or so - more than 99%.

And now it has much further to fall, as by the hour the horrific reality of UK's 40 years long Booming, Entrepreneurial Economy and whole country outside of Belgravia, Mayfair, Kensington and selected parts of the Home Counties is revealed - sub-Soviet Russia in the 1970s - drugs, crime, total poverty and no societal cohesion, unlike Russia.
 

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Says it all really.

JLR finally shuts its shutting down anyway this Friday - remember, not due to Coronavirus, but lack of demand - UK plants, after Nitra, the only important factory, due to the only-selling product, New Defender, was already closed, and the Tata Motors share price bounces up.

Why? Because it's cheaper to not pay people to do nothing than it is to pay people to make something that doesn't sell.

Unlike every other civilised, sane country, except perhaps the US, JLR can effectively lay off its workers with no pay, indefinitely, and the first couple of weeks will be covered by enforced use of the workers' own annual holiday pay.

So why would you run a factory costing millions a week in wages and salaries, with minimal income from goods sold, when you can close it and effectively have no outgoings?

No-brainer. Why Speth didn't jump at the chance to shut Solihull, CB and Halewood at the first opportunity, under cover of Corona, like PSA's Tavares and his useless UK Vauxhall plants, churning out no-sales Astras, and Vivaro vans given away to rental firms, is only explained by the need to show that JLR is exceptional, not like other car firms, so successful and big-selling that it hurts to have it to shut it down, with so many frustrated customers worldwide waiting desperately for their Stunners and Gamechangers.

A shut JLR is more valuable to Tata than an open one. How perverse all this nonsense is.

Compare to say Ford, where shutting it all down means taking up all multi-billion credit lines, due to smashed, no income.

JLR's income was, is the UK taxpayer. Open/closed makes sod all difference, as it was, is just a PR operation, to brainwash the idiot little people, who believe the media and their govt., that JLR is stunningly successful, just like the world-leading UK economy.

Corona has exposed that JLR is not a business, a real one.

It could close from now till Kingdom comes, and it wouldn't matter - to the Tata billionaires and the UK elites, whose income comes from The City/Crown.

It would matter to the 35,000-odd UK workers, who from Easter will be living on fresh air - either £95/week sick pay if declared self-isolating, or Universal Credit of as little as £65/week, but they'll have to wait for up to 6 weeks, around late May, to get it, with a loan/advance, which has to be paid back with interest to the Govt., to tide them over.

In other words, the 'stunningly successful' company will have tens of thousands of workers, hundreds of thousands of workers dependent on it in the upstream and downstream supply chain, that are effectively as poor as the poorest third world person, and without the 25-30 deg. C third world weather, so needing to spend around £30-50/week alone just keeping themselves and their family warm, plus food at £50-100/week, plus everything else.

How does that work out, Spaffer/Rishi? It works out excellently, as these clowns with their platitudes and waffle, never coming to the point of why other European countries, 'not as rich as UK', are paying their workers up to 70% of their salaries, while laid off, are the front men and women for the psycho billionaires/trillionaires in UK and offshore that want these plebs gone - to the point of starvation, hypothermia and death.

All working out very nicely.
 

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As when Spaffer opens his mouth and the pounds falls further, when Autocar wheels out its last supposed journo with integrity and man with the inside track on industry matters, Hilton Holloway, Tata Motors' share price heads for the ground:

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b&q=NSE:+TATAMOTORS&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAONgecRoxi3w8sc9YSndSWtOXmNU5-IKzsgvd80rySypFJLkYoOy-KV4ubj10_UNU8oMM3LNcngWsfL7BbtaKYQ4hjj6-of4BwUDALBZettNAAAA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjC2ducvLDoAhWhuXEKHfhOChkQsRUwKHoECA4QAw&biw=1024&bih=667

That 'exclusive' by Holloway this morning seems to have put the tin hat on JLR's '2020 is its year' - remember the headline and statement by his employer just a couple of months ago?

Maybe they meant - '2020 is its (final) year'.

Look, obviously what's going to happen/is happening is the Fed, ECB, BoE etc are going to print tens of trillions, possibly quadrillions of toilet paper money - but that's more valuable - and buy up every junk corporate, real worth zero bond in the world, including of course JLR's, Tata Motors', and Tata Group's.

That's almost certainly what this 'Emergency' is, was all about - which began last September, with the Fed printing 1.5, then 5 trillion dollars for its banker mates, months before The Thing was even known about. Hmm.

These bonds, like JLR's, were worthless, going back to 2018, 2016 in JLR's case.

The pretence, to the idiot, TV, iPad watching hoi polloi was spun out for months, years, after they knew the system had to crash - people on barely £20k/yr wages having to pay £1,000 a month rent in London - just as the 2008-9 crash actually begun in 2006-7.

The trick, unlike 2008-9, was to fully avoid all and any blame for this much bigger, end-of-everything Crash.

Hence The Thing.

Still doesn't really solve anything for them, as 90%+ of people have no money - like 2010-2020 - but just moreso, so unless they go full-on Gulag Archipelago, in UK, US, Europe, it's just more kicking the can down the road.
 

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As when Spaffer opens his mouth and the pounds falls further, when Autocar wheels out its last supposed journo with integrity and man with the inside track on industry matters, Hilton Holloway, Tata Motors' share price heads for the ground:

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b&q=NSE:+TATAMOTORS&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAONgecRoxi3w8sc9YSndSWtOXmNU5-IKzsgvd80rySypFJLkYoOy-KV4ubj10_UNU8oMM3LNcngWsfL7BbtaKYQ4hjj6-of4BwUDALBZettNAAAA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjC2ducvLDoAhWhuXEKHfhOChkQsRUwKHoECA4QAw&biw=1024&bih=667
I have a few shares. I can tell you, that Tata Motor's share price is not doing much worse than all the other's ;-)
 

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I have a few shares. I can tell you, that Tata Motor's share price is not doing much worse than all the other's ;-)
Interesting comment because I had taken the view that if my small portfolio had shed as much as Tata Motors I would be very depressed. Maybe I am a lucky stockpicker because my loss is not anything like as great as the fall that Tata Motors in the same period.
 
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