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interesting:

Contractor Ratio is 75% to 25% permanent staff. All contractors are looking at opportunities elsewhere
- this and 'pens down', 'just turning up to sign in and be paid' etc, is that why:

- the I-Pace has treaded water, or got worse, in its 'software maturation', beta issue to what would be expected from a launched on the market product, since September 2018?

- the eXJ is nothing but a drawing on a slide, flashed up at lasy year's Frankfurt mtor show, and still no sign of even the conceot well into 2020, when it was promised for '2020', and May gave Tata £500m of UK taxpayer mpney to pay for its production?

- the XF facelift is also now up to 8 month late, having been promised by JLR's PR contractor in 'the second half of 2019'?

- the Evoque and DSport PHEVs are still not launched, even though advertising cars were running around almost 3 months ago saying 'The New Hybrid Evoque', and JLR/Tata has had hundreds of millions of UK taxpayers' pound since 2008, 12 years ago, to fund specifically the development and bringing to a commercial product of 'ERAD', the system that Volvo has had on the market for nearly 5 years?

- etc, etc.

All makes sense now, doesn't it. Or was known to those who never accepted or drank the media and state koolaid on 'stunning' JLR, and 'Tata saved the UK motor industry', as soon as Tata set foot in the building, given that they were ex-dope peddlers, and already had form with Corus/British Steel, and their lightfingeredness with its pension fund, or having worked at Warwick University, and seen 'the great man', Bhattacharyya, Tata's bagman, up close, and his, let's say, behaviour that would make Ms Prtit Patel seem like Boss of the Year, not even mentioning employing his wife's brother on the university payroll, in a made up position - Ghosn, eat yer heart out.

The buggers had 12 years of it - TWELVE F****** YEARS, without anyone saying boo, never mind Plod feeling their collars - but then Plod would have to start with his/her/its own.

Justice will be served eventually.
 

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interesting:

Contractor Ratio is 75% to 25% permanent staff. All contractors are looking at opportunities elsewhere
- this and 'pens down', 'just turning up to sign in and be paid' etc, is that why:

- the I-Pace has trod water, or got worse, in its 'software maturation', beta issue to what would be expected from a launched on the market product, since September 2018?

- the eXJ is nothing but a drawing on a slide, flashed up at last year's Frankfurt motor show, and still no sign of even the concept well into 2020, when it was promised for '2020', and May gave Tata £500m of UK taxpayer money to pay for its production?

- the XF facelift is also now up to 8 months late, having been promised by JLR's PR contractor in 'the second half of 2019'?

- the Evoque and DSport PHEVs are still not launched, even though advertising cars were running around almost 3 months ago saying 'The New Hybrid Evoque', and JLR/Tata has had hundreds of millions of UK taxpayers' pounds since 2008, 12 years ago, to fund specifically the development and bringing to a commercial product of 'ERAD', the system that Volvo has had on the market for nearly 5 years?

- etc, etc.

All makes sense now, doesn't it. Or was known to those who never accepted or drank the media and state's koolaid on 'stunning' JLR, and 'Tata saved the UK motor industry', as soon as Tata set foot in the building, given that they were ex-dope peddlers, and already had form with Corus/British Steel, and their lightfingeredness with its pension fund, or having worked at Warwick University, and seen 'the great man', Bhattacharyya, Tata's bagman, up close, and his, let's say, behaviour that would make Ms Priti Patel Boss of the Year.
 

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UK and Indian shysters fighting like rats in a sack?:

'Tata Motors’ Jaguar Land Rover US sales down 2.4%'
https://www.cnbctv18.com/auto/tata-motors-jaguar-land-rover-us-sales-down-2-4-5420381.htm

- JLR has just told the world that it would stop monthly sales reporting in the US in 2020, and then the operation in Bombay comes along and does just that.

Ridiculous Incompetence, or Bombay trying to show that JLR has not totally collapsed, by using the joke self-reporting of the US as proof, of:

1. JLR not being dead, and
2. Jaguar is being dead

They, Tata, don't give two hoots about Jaguar, but do care about Land Rover(/JLR).

Hence the OTT whole thing around 'New Defender'.
 

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As goes shopping in UK, goes everything:

'Struggling shopping centre owner Intu abandons £1bn cash call'

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/mar/04/struggling-shopping-centre-owner-intu-abandons-1bn-cash-call

deciphered: these shopping palace 'assets' are worth nothing, less than nothing, as they decay without expenditure.

Same for JLR. A couple/three years ago, it was worth billions, tens of billions - supposedly - booked probably by Tata Sons as worth £50bn, the Range Rover name alone maybe £20bn.

Coronathing is just the icing on the cake, the straw that breaks the camel's back.

No shopping, no UK 'economy', no JLR.
 

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Germany officially down 10.8% in February YoY, but the real fall is hinted at by the drop in private buyers, 16.1%, so real around 20% YoY, like Sweden and most of continental Europe - recession/depression situation, due to most people being broke, as stock markets and .01% boom.

UK's SMMT will no doubt come out with some farcical small percentage drop, or even small rise, tomorrow, and no one will bat an eyelid.

https://www.kba.de/DE/Presse/Pressemitteilungen/2020/Fahrzeugzulassungen/pm07_2020_n_02_20_pm_komplett.html



- the by-model figures will be out next week, and I'll bet XE and XF have enjoyed an amazing YoY rise, and not a few I-Paces 'sold', which means leasing companies and rental companies have basically been given cars by JLR, courtesy of the UK taxpayer.

Can you imagine how bad Land Rover's figure really is. €80k Velars, €60k+ Evoques and DSports, €100k Disco5s. Who wouldn't want such things.
 

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Can you imagine how bad Land Rover's figure really is. €80k Velars, €60k+ Evoques and DSports, €100k Disco5s. Who wouldn't want such things.
- speak of the devil, yet another 'temporary' production shutdown at 'stunning success' JLR.

Losing count, so many, so little time now between these 'temporary' events.

Wouldn't it be easier for Sir Ralf to announce from Salzburg or Mustique when JLR will be open - on a blue moon/leap year/Mayan calendar?

Doesn't take a genius to now look back a few weeks and see how Sir Ralf, the UK state and the whole 'global' media prepped the little people for this - 'can't get key fobs out of China', 'flying suitcases of parts in', 'may have to stop production in a few weeks if we can't get parts'. Remember?

Also, just yesterday, the lackey Unite bod, helpfully - to Tata - said Coronavirus was behind a looming production stop at JLR, and the govt. should do something. How are those 30 pieces of silver, mister union man?

All was being done to brainwash JLR's funders, pleb non-offshored UK taxpayers, that JLR's known, imminent, latest, major production halt was due to the nasty bug and the Chinese, not sh!t vehicles that no one but headbangers in the South east and perhaps North Yorkshire are buying, and overproducing for 4 years+, at up to 300k units/yr, with cars parked up everywhere, no more room, so have to cut production.

Clever, eh? No, of course not. But the pr!cks running JLR and the UK obviously beg to differ.

'Jaguar Land Rover to shut Merseyside plant for 10 days'

'Carmaker also altering schedules at Castle Bromwich and Solihull due to weak sales'

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/mar/04/jaguar-land-rover-shut-merseyside-plant-carmaker-castle-bromwhich-solihull
 

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'How do you solve a problem like JLR?'

Answer: Spaffer dispatches Priti to Bombay to swear and shout at Ratan to put some f****** rupees into JLR, NOW!, or he tells Rishi to have a word with the father-in-law and get Infosys to buy JLR - £5 should cover it.

Anyone got a better suggestion?
 

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And tomorrow, as usual, SMMT/Pravda will come out with the usual fairytale of 'UK car market holding up remarkably', and J+LR holding their own, possibly even YoY gains, while the Germans and pretty well everyone else are dying in ditches, to coin a phrase.

How bad must it get before people snap out of it?
 

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Bond flick, No Time To Die, circa 2 hour advert for the 'make-or-break' New Defender and JLR, and Aston Martin of course, postponed to November.

Did Speth or Palmer kick a cripple in a previous life?

No New Defender, no JLR - no buyer.
 

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Excellent news for JLR! Sorry, 'LR', as Tata henceforth wish it to be known:

https://www.smmt.co.uk/2020/03/uk-new-car-market-falls-2-9-in-february-as-industry-calls-for-tax-free-evs-to-kick-start-demand/

LR up a massive 33.5%, over a third!, in a market which is actually down around 25% on last February. Stunning!

How does Speth and his team of magicians at JLR do it?

And why is JLR, sorry, LR, stopping production of Evoques and DSports for two weeks, when they obviously cannot make enough to keep up with massive demand?

Has Speth considered offering Tavares £1 for the Vauxhall plant across the Mersey, so that LR can keep up with rampant demand for the 'New' Evoque, and 'New' DSport?

Luckily, I can vouch for the veracity of LR's/SMMT's one-third rise in LR sales in the UK, as 99% of them are running around Solihull and South Warwickshire, coincidentally where LR's main factory and its tech and commerical HQ, Gaydon, are, and where many of its employees live.

So gratifying to see such wonderful, 'stunning' success indeed for this Great British Company, with literally one in three cars in Solihull being either an Ox-plated Evoque or DSport. Makes you feel proud to be British, and eternally grateful to the Indians in Bombay who made all this possible, not to forget the amazing Bavarian, Sir, Prof, surely soon to be Lord, Baron? Speth.


PS this also explains why the PHEV versions are so late/never coming. What's the point, when the whole world is clamouring for £50-60k+ 2-litre diesel Evoques and DSports, with their unmatched 20-30 mpg, 5 times care in the first year at LR's renowned 'care centres'/dealers, and a free crash course in the arcane world of DPFs. The Germans can only dream of matching such an all-round premium experience.
 

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The real takeaway form the SMMT's Comical Ali-would-be-ashamed Feb figures is:

- the rise and rise of Seat/Skoda, especially Seat, now doing around 3 times the sales what it was just 2-3 years ago.

Seat-Skoda in UK is now past Hyundai-Kia, heading for 8% share of the market. Amazing.

They're already way past Vauxhall, and will overtake Ford, for a combined 2nd spot, once the new Octavia, Leon and so on come through fully later this year.

VW itself is already past Ford, the 40 years+ long leader of the UK market - astonishing, and a major landmark - and yet the UK press says nothing - for obvious reasons.

The new Golf, updated Tiguan, etc, etc, plus of course the ID.3 later this year, will move VW away from Ford, which after a decent new Focus and Fiesta, is back relying on vans for a presence in Europe.

The real story of car registrations in UK in 2020 to date, is the rise and rise of 'Cheating VAG', which of course is the 180 opposite of what the 'global' media and UK and US states have spent nearly 5 years, 24/7, browbeating and brainwashing their citizenry to believe - VAG was going down, rightly, for its heinous crimes.
 

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While the media forces all unthinking eyes to concentrate on Flybe - a 2 bob outfit - Aston Martin is falling down a mineshaft.

No Bond film, no last-hope for Aston.

Stroll never put a penny in. The trick was to get through to deliveries of the DBX, with suppliers and key workers thinking it had been saved, with a major cash injection.

Didn't happen of course, and won't happen, and now even if the DBX is finished by say summer, so what, no one's buying anything, especially China/Asia-targeted toys, that are not as good as dozens of German SUVs, up to half the price.

If Spaffer and co let Flybe go, they'll have to let Aston go - why are bust taxpayers - see Waitrose/John Lewis crumbling, as predicted - propping up an outfit that needs to subsidise millioniare/billionaire buyers? If they want a DBX or Valkyrie, let them pay the market, real price.

Same with JLR/'LR'. If it can't make money at £60k for an Evoque, or £100k for a Range Rover, then it needs to up the prices to where it will, or vastly reduce production, or headcount, or go out of business.
 

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'It's all the fault of the Coronavirus thing' - yeah, right:

Indian automaker Tata Motors has warned of lower profit at its British luxury car brand Jaguar Land Rover (JLR) for the fiscal year as sales in China have taken a hit because of the coronavirus outbreak.
https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/indias-tata-motors-warns-of-jlr-profit-hit-due-to-coronavirus-2020-03-06

- TM share price down 10% this morning - back to level of pre-JLR pruchase in 2008.

China sales for JLR pre-Coronavirus made up at most 20% of its global sales, but we're to believe JLR's and Tata Motors' collapse is due to this one-fifth collapsing, due to the virus, not the fact that Europe went post-Dieselgate and JLR's unreliable, overpriced vehicles, the US 'record sales' are largely fake, for several years now, and JLR's only real sales are in the UK, mainly in the South East, to hardcore patriots, and at least half of JLR's official UK sales are sales to itself.

As I said, it looks more and more like Coronavirus is the got-up scapegoat, excuse for the collapse of UK's and US's phony 'Booming' economies of the last 10/40 years, the culprits and benefactors away scot free, and the little people told to blame the Chinese instead for the cause of it all.

Just way too convenient and coincidental - the 'world' economy - UK and US financial ponzi economies - were already past tipping point, with all the insider looting already done, very little left to steal, and even the dumbest would smell a rat about another 2008-9 official, mult-trillion pound/dollar 'poor bankers' bailout.

"Recognizing the present situation is highly uncertain and could change, the reduction in China sales resulting from the coronavirus presently is estimated to reduce Jaguar Land Rover's full year EBIT margin by about 1%," it said.
- yeah, right - that fraction of a change in 'profitable' JLR would explain the collapse of the owner's share price.

They take us for absolute morons.

JLR has been bust since 2015, when its once booming China business collapsed overnight, and then went multi-billions bust a year later, with Dieselgate, and now is billions bust a month, and these Tata clowns want us to believe it has shaved its EBIT a fraction.

It's all about not being formally fingered as an Enron, and the auditors/accountants as the next Arthur Andersen, and some execs, and govt. officials, doing the perp walk.

If they can distract the little people, they can pull off this 'controlled demolition' of the fake UK and US economies of the last 40 years, just as they did that certain other demolition.
 

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The secret behind Jaguar's stunning sales rise last month in Germany:

Februar 2020Januar-Februar 2020
ModellreiheAnzahlAnteil
in %
Veränd. gegenüber
Februar 2019
in %
darunter
gewerbl. Halter
Anteil in %
AnzahlAnteil
in %
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Jan.- Februar
2019 in %
darunter
gewerbl. Halter
Anteil in %

JAGUAR XE
236
0.8181.014.85600.9308.818.9

- 'sales' up nearly threefold on Feb. '19, and over fourfold year to date - yeah right.

And even more incredible than that, the proportion of 'business' - read pre-/self-registering, giveaways to leasing and rental companies - was onlly 14.8%, or less than 1 in 6, or more than 5 in 6 to real, private buyers, in February - yeah, yeah right.

I don't know how JLR Deutschland have done this, but they've obviously found a way to fiddle the system.

No one else in the same segment, medium-sized cars, had a 'business' proportion lower than 60%, except the Tesla Model 3, and that was much higher than the XE's, at 43.1%, and that is a car that would be a) in demand, b) ordered, and c) bought by mainly private individuals.

The average 'business' proportion for the segment 'Mittelklasse', which the XE, Model 3, 3-Series, C-Class, A4 etc are in, is 81.5% for February, and 82.8% for year to date, Jan to Feb.

If anyone really believes that 85.2% of those 236 XE 'sales' in February were to real, private buyers, ...there's a bridge in Brooklyn we can sell to you.

Talk about a scummy bunch of fiddlers, liars and cheats. Desperate people do desperate things. No doubt, the spinless f'ers in JLR Deutschland caved to pressure from Whitley, Speth's henchmen, to find a way to 'improve' JLR's otherwise disastrous, and falling off a cliff even more this year, Germany figures.

The much better Alfa Guilia by comparison had only 80 registrations in February, and 143 YTD, and 85% of those 80 in Feb. were 'business'.

Still believe JLR's/JLR Deutschland's figures?

What really happened is JLR Deutschland gave a load of XEs to lease and rental companies, and probably quite a few booked to 'VIP', maybe 3-month loans, and somehow managed to book the overwhelming majority as 'private' sales, with neither part being true.

Giveaways to lease/rental companies at 40%, probably more, off list price, is not a sale, a fire sale, yes, but not a sale from a normal company. Saying you've sold a car to a private individual, who is given the car foc, or paid to drive it for a few months, is not a sale either.

This is backdoor state aid. JLR can only do this, basically give away about £10m worth of cars, as they are propped up by UK taxpayer cash.

The EU/Brussels must know this, unless they are retards. JLR is bust, and went bust over 4 years ago. Billions of UK state aid is keeping it going.

Maybe it's just too big and too embarrassing to bring to the public's attention, and there will be pressure from the Germans to keep it going, as 200-odd XE's given away, and losing sales of 3-Series, C-Class, A4s etc, is weighed against the money ZF, Bosch, Siemens, Brose etc make from supplying a still alive JLR.

Realpolitik, as the Germans would say. The pretence is kept alive as it suits a purpose.

The sh!tty end of the deal though is the UK taxpayers'. What do they get for this multi-billion merry-go-round? Nada.

Look at the I-Pace's figures, to see how ridiculous the XE's are:

JAGUAR I-PACE580.1-37.086.2
1460.135.275.3

- 'sales' down bigly on last Feb., and only 13.8% private buyers - could be as few as just 8 real I-Paces sold.

or the E-Pace, F-Pace:

JAGUAR E-PACE1980.89.451.0
4000.70.347.5
JAGUAR F-PACE1060.4-23.762.32550.5-18.567.5

and the F-type, XF:

JAGUAR F-TYPE311.1-36.751.6871.6-14.759.8
JAGUAR XF370.5-60.267.61020.6-10.566.7

- without that 'amazing' 181% jump in XE 'sales', Jaguar's Feb. 'sales' in total would have been a disaster, around 30% down YoY, instead of the reported +3.9%.

And that's why they did it. And UK taxpayers paid for it.
 

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I wonder... :

Februar 2020Januar-Februar 2020
ModellreiheAnzahlAnteil
in %
Veränd. gegenüber
Februar 2019
in %
darunter
gewerbl. Halter
Anteil in %
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2019 in %
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Anteil in %

JAGUAR E-PACE1980.89.451.04000.70.347.5
LAND ROVER RANGE ROVER EVOQUE3451.424.551.09521.8-19.862.5

- the Evoque saved the day for L/Rover, as the 'incredible' rise for the XE, and the E-Pace to a lesser extent, did for Jaguar.

A coincidence that the E-Pace and Evoque have the same proportion of 'business' buyers, and both proportions are low, well below the segment, 'Gelaendewagen', average of 70.7% in Feb.?

I wonder if JLR Deutschland found a way to book hundreds of cars to 'private', that have been shovelled out the door to lease/rental companies and VIP/Special/Other fleets?

Look at DSport - not exactly a car that springs to mind with 'special order', or private buyers' favourite, is it, but... :

LAND ROVER DISCOVERY SPORT1390.6-1.446.04070.744.350.4

- 46%!, when the likes of the genuinely hot-selling, private buyers'/retired' favourites are:

VOLVO XC409463.9-7.071.7
1,7043.1-9.967.4
VOLVO XC601,4185.934.380.72,5924.84.578.5

- that's typical of the segment, all cars sold in Germany overall - around 70% or a bit more 'business'.

I think, even more now, that JLR's German sales company has found a way to book cars to make them look like legitimate sales, for KBA official reporting purposes, but is shovelling units into 'special' fleets, VIP, 'Other' etc, which is contorted to make them look like sales, and to private individuals.

Fraud, but who cares these days?
 

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Murdoch's flagship rag to the rescue with deliberate disinfo:

'Jaguar to halt factory after China sales slump'


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/jaguar-to-halt-factory-after-china-sales-slump-d9mkjps5h

The news came as it emerged that Britain’s largest automotive group, which is seeking to cut 500 of its 4,500 workers at its Halewood plant on Merseyside, will close the factory for nine days in an attempt to rebalance demand. Halewood is the home of the best-selling Range Rover Evoque.
- the Evoques and DSports made in Halewood are for everywhere BUT China, so blaming its closure for 2 weeks on China/China-Coronavirus has to be deliberate disinfo.

Evoques and DSports sold in China are made in China, by Chery-JLR.

The reason Halewood is closing for 2 weeks, and JLR is looking to chop its workforce again - was 6,000 just a year or so ago - is that 'New' Evoque and 'New' DSport are selling a tad less well than expected - f'ing disaster, the technical phrase - millions of the buggers running around Solihull/B'ham.

Coronathing is being wheeled out by the media and the UK state to tell the little people that JLR's terminal bustness is due to China and the virus, nothing to do with atrociously built, worst engine in the world equipped, 100% overpriced garbage product.

So convenient this Coronathing.
 

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Now we know why XF Facelift has no-showed since God was a little boy, why J-Pace, RRSport's analogue, promised/trailed for 3+ years, never happened, why the E-Pace, now 2 years old, seemed even then a half-hearted effort, even by JLR standards, and why XJ was let run out after 10 years - 3 more than the industry standard - without a ready to go successor, and one not likely for 18 months at least since July 2019.

Add the trailed/promised 'New F-type', which everyone was led to believe would have a substantial, almost new car makeover, and crucially, would have a BMW engine, if not engines, the I6 or V8 - Project Jennifer, remember - or both, but came out as a nothing burger, as the Yanks say, maybe £20m spent tops - new front clip/apron mainly.

This is MG Rover levels of deliberate neglect, and covering up with promises, promises, 'next year', 'big things coming' and of course the window-dressing of something useless, irrelevant, like the X-Power, ancient Italian sportscar with American V8 thing for MG Rover, and the I-Pace/I-Pace Trophy 'racing' for JLR 2018-2020.

Now that I-Pace failed to find an idiot buyer, as the X-Power malarkey failed to sucker in Daewoo or the Chinese for The Phoenix Four crooks, it's time to make a scapegoat, for all this non-delivery, and crap ancient product lines, many barely on their last legs - XF, XE, F-type, failed 'New' Evoque, DSport, etc.

So, wheel out the culprit - 'Jaguar'.

Tell your media mates, and orchestrate with .gov/Whitehall - Spaffer/Andy Street - that this is 'The Plan' - blame it all on Jaguar.

As I've said a million times, 'JLR' was always about 'LR', with Jag being a cinderella at best, with its real death back in the early 70s, and a fake revival under Egan in the 80s.

It's LR's collapse, at least three-quarters of JLR's business, that has done for JLR.

Evoque was the reason for its, JLR's, stunning success for about 4 years, 2011-2015, then the RRSport for about 3-4 years, 2014-18, and then nothing.

Evoque II bombed. DSport is horrid - 2.1 tonnes 'powered' by the worst engine in the world.

Velar was a joke that stopped being funny after 5 mins. - £80k for a 4-pot Ingenium with DPF issues every 1,500 miles? Are you mad?

Now that JLR has been Coronaed, 'No Time to Advertise the lastest stunning JLR to Airheads' Bond film binned, it's over, amd so 'They' have to tell the little people who or what was to blame for it all - The Cat.
 

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The next Honda Swindon:

'PSA reduces UK plant's workweek; jobs cuts could follow'


https://europe.autonews.com/automakers/psa-reduces-uk-plants-workweek-jobs-cuts-could-follow

- '2 down, 1 to go'.

Merseyside/Liverpool really, a tiny region/medium sized city, was blessed with THREE fairly major car plants as a result of post-war regional development by government - Tory and Labour - with Speke(Standard-Triumph/BL), Halewood(Ford) and Ellesmere Port(Vauxhall).

PSA are just windowdressing the closure of Ellesmere Port, with the long decided award of the next Astra to Poland and Germany.

The Astra is a dead duck anyway, against PSA's own cars in France and Spain, and VAG's steamroller of VW/Skoda/Seat.

That leaves just Halewood, where JLR has already chopped at least a third of the workforce in the last 18 months or so - don't forget outsourcing is at least 40% of the total headcount at JLR manufacturing ops, and these can be cut 'silently'.

Even if JLR survived, the new owner would pull the plug on Halewood - crap quality, real production load around 150k cars/yr for 4,000 heads, and a new factory in Slovakia, with better quality, cheaper labour, and lots and lots of room - lift and shift line in an extended summer shutdown - 4 weeks max.

Merseyside is vacated - around 1 million people living on 2 football teams, 60 years ago memories and sweet fa else - like UK then, outside of City of London.
 
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