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After seeing the car on Friday afternoon, I found a little imperfection in the passenger rear panel where the door meets the rear panel, it seems like a long dent but having looked face on at it, it seems to run with the body panel, meaning that I can't see it. My son looked at it yesterday prior to picking the car up and mentioned it to the service manager about it and he explained that it was press marks in the body. Could you please inspect your cars to see if you can see the same thing. You need to look from the back of the car and it seems to break up reflections. Thank you.
 

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a pic would help.

but generally, if it doesn't look right, it isn't right. if it's not the same on the other side then it shouldn't be there :cry:

i'd be having words with the dealer. should've been sorted before delivery :)

edit - went and looked at mine :) there's nothing obvious, but i've just spotted the crease in the rear bumper that fades before the wheelarch, then comes back in the rear door, becoming more prominent towards the front of the car. lovely design touch.

oh, and i took a pic :)
 

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Having just inspected the car once again, I was able to get a few pics of the problem and this will help people to know where to look on their cars and also to compare this to their cars.
 

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Tom would it not be worthwhile just taking your car into a VBRA body repairer and ask for an estimate :?: Armed with that go back to the dealer and jump up and down until it is to your liking :)
And they say lightning doesn't strike twice in the same place :shock:
 

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looking at mine, i can just about convince myself there's a slight imperfection in a similar area, though it's a lot more subtle than that.


it's difficult to catch on a pic cause it's so tiny, and i wouldn't have seen it if i'd not been looking, whereas Tom's seems more obvious
 

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I think it looks like a dent as well.

I've looked at mine for you and there is the slightest of changes to the panel just as it approaches the fold into the door space. When I say the slightest of changes, I could just feel it if I ran my hand back to front towards the door gap. Be aware that in the attached picture, there are two houses in the reflection and not one reflected into two. there's certainly nothing as dramatic as your photo suggests.

It's too dark here now to get another photo but if you want me to I'll have another go tomorrow.
 

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Thanks to all our friends on the forum for replying with pics and comments, I am so grateful of your time! Second issue we have with the car, when we pulled off of the forecourt, could only see through half of the windscreen because of absolute severe distortion which made my wife feel sick. Took car back on Sunday morning to be told by dealer that service manager would ring me at 9.AM Monday. I was told that this was a safety issue and that he would have to contact me urgently. Here we are at 8:20 PM, dealer is probably at home drinking his wine and eating his best sirloin steak which I supplied as a good will gesture Saturday and have not heard from him at all today. We thought that they were our friends until we had a problem with our car, as always with this dealership!
 

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What a shame - having been on a factory tour I know they take quality control very seriously. However, this could have happened in transit I suppose. If it is replicated on others cars then clearly it needs raising urgently with Jaguar Cars Uk. I would agree with others though, keep the pressure on the dealer
 

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What a shame - having been on a factory tour I know they take quality control very seriously. However, this could have happened in transit I suppose. If it is replicated on others cars then clearly it needs raising urgently with Jaguar Cars Uk. I would agree with others though, keep the pressure on the dealer
This is not done in transit because the service manager at dealership told me that it is on ALL XFs. This is my 3rd XF with bodywork/paintwork faults. I am very unhappy with this. :x
 

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Tom,
I have to say that I have looked very carefully on my car today and can't find any hint of a dent in the area that you have highlighted on your car.
I have taken a picture, avoiding direct sunlight and I think that if a dent or imperfection were present it would show up.
 

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Pekam, like mine, there is the slightest hint of a change of line just prior to the door fold but nothing like Tom's
 

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I am being driven crazy Qhunter by this :lol:
I have enlarged the last picture for you to highlight the area which is suspect.
Unlike Tom, I can't see anything; even when you ring it :lol:
 

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I'm not saying for one second that either of our cars are defective. I'm simply pointing out that there is a slight distortion as the panel approaches the fold into the door.

Try it this way: I've drawn a straight line parallel to the edge of the reflected path. I'm assuming the path edge is fairly straight. Now compare the gap between my straight line and the line of the path edge. Can you see how it narrows as the line approaches the door? I had to look very closely to see it on mine and I've accepted that it's simply a characteristic of bending sheet metal by stamping. My point is that whilst our two cars show what is no more than a slight manufacturing characteristic, Tom's appears to show something much more.

[attachment=0:1xrauajh]DoorDent 002AB.jpg[/attachment:1xrauajh]
 

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Hi Guy's

I've just checked mine and I too have a very small 'bend inwards', but wouldn't have noticed had it not been pointed out! It's too small for me to get upset by, however, if it were as pronounced as SNO8 TOM then I wouldn't be too happy.

Clearly, you can't see mine as I haven't uploaded any pictures yet (I hope to take some digital pictures this weekend)! Sorry, but I will do so!

I have now completed the full polished bliss treatment (Tardis, followed by Claying, followed by Blackfire polish, followed by Blackfire, followed by Blackfire Carnauba etc...) and have to say that the paintwork of my car was in a dreadful state for a new car. Being Ultimate Black, it was always going to show minor scratches, but parts of the car looked like they had been 'brillo padded' or cleaned by a piece of sandpaper. This must have happened at PDI and not at the factory. In particular, I had some bad scratches on the bonnet (next to the 'power bulge') and on both back doors / wings where the transport tape was originally fixed. The Blackfire treatement has minimized these and I am now 'happy'. Did consider taking back to the dealer, but was just nervous that they may make things worse. More annoyingly, I have some deep scratches in the Burr Walnut and silver surround next to the hand brake

Has anybody else used the Blackfire products yet? The results are great, however, I think that I would have achieved just a good a result with Claying (must admit that i hadn't heard of claying until I read Roma & Pekem's posts and I was surprised at how much 'fallout' there was on a new car!) followed by Autoglym SRP and a top coat of Extra Gloss Protection (which is what I have historically used on previous cars and Mrs Dean's Focus / Kuga). Autoglym is also cheaper (not cheap though) and far easier to apply and remove. It also looks like FX got a good result on her 'test pannels'.
 

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Taken vehicle to dealer today. Service manager and paint specialist, could see defect on my car, on checking approx. 8 xfs we then found that each one has same defect, service manager said he will contact Jaguar UK. Will keep you all posted with the outcome. Once again thanks for all your help, pictures and comments
 

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Qhunter said:
I'm not saying for one second that either of our cars are defective. I'm simply pointing out that there is a slight distortion as the panel approaches the fold into the door.

Try it this way: I've drawn a straight line parallel to the edge of the reflected path. I'm assuming the path edge is fairly straight. Now compare the gap between my straight line and the line of the path edge. Can you see how it narrows as the line approaches the door? I had to look very closely to see it on mine and I've accepted that it's simply a characteristic of bending sheet metal by stamping. My point is that whilst our two cars show what is no more than a slight manufacturing characteristic, Tom's appears to show something much more.

[attachment=0:12lxoh2l]DoorDent 002AB.jpg[/attachment:12lxoh2l]
Thank you for your efforts. I have to say that a blind man would be delighted to see it :)
 

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SN08 TOM said:
Taken vehicle to dealer today. Service manager and paint specialist, could see defect on my car, on checking approx. 8 xfs we then found that each one has same defect, service manager said he will contact Jaguar UK. Will keep you all posted with the outcome. Once again thanks for all your help, pictures and comments
Tom,
Looking at the pictures of my car above, can you see on it what you see on your own :?:
Jaguar must be well p****d off with your dealer finding that number of suspect cars :shock:
 

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Sorry Pekem I seen it as soon as you posted pic. At least my dealer agrees with myself that there is a defect. Yesterday in Bath I spotted a 58 xf in Lunar. The driver let me look around his car, well I found the same problem in his. When this was pointed out he told me that I had ruined his car for him.
 
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