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The outbreak of the Corona virus is being used as an explanation and an excuse for a lot of things happening at the moment. It has also been mentioned in relation to JLR and the falling sales. I can tell you, that the Corona virus is getting really close. Yesterday, Monday, I was at my dentist's to have two old fillings repaired. He met me with a face mask and wouldn't shake my hand. "These are the precautions we have to take now", he said. Then he rummaged around inside my mouth for one hour using a lot of force, hammering wedges in between my teeth to make room for his work et cetera. Not that it hurt a lot, but it is not exactly comfortable to have your mouth wide open for one hour while all this is being done.

During his work he was doing a little small talk telling me, he had just returned from a skiing holiday in Austria the day before, Sunday. Being a doctor, I'm used to notice subtle health related symptoms, and I noticed, he was coughing a little. And sure enough. This morning his colleague at the clinic phoned me, that my dentist had developed a fever and started coughing yesterday evening. A special unit will come to test him today. So for now I'll have to stay at home, until I know whether my dentist has caught Corona virus or not.

Fortunately I have started a two weeks holiday (am. vacation) yesterday, so I'm not at work. Otherwise I would have put my colleagues and my patients at risk. Our youngest son (20 yo) is at home, but he is ill. He actually came home from a weekend in Vienna (de. Wien), Austria, two weeks ago and has been ill with a cold since then. It doesn't really look like Corona (covid-19), but more like a conventional cold. And he was i Austria before Austria became part of the "red zone".

My wife has gone to her work today. Fortunately, we haven't been close. I have had a sinusitis, which is not yet completely over, so we keep a little distance. Our ill son prefers my wife's bed, so he was sleeping next to me last night, and my wife slept in a separate room. If my dentist has caught Corona virus, my wife can't go home to us. Fortunately, we have a summerhouse only 40 kms away, were she can go. Of course you could argue, that my wife should come home to be isolated with our son and me for two weeks. Theoretically, she could also have catched the virus from me, if my dentist tests positive.

This just to show, what an impact this can have on all our lives. It is not easy to decide, what to do. We don't want to infect other people and not least our patients. But we also want to go to work, since doctors are always needed. Fortunately, my wife is the CMO (chief medical officer) of the hospital, so she only has office work and has no contact with patients. Another small matter is, that we have planned to go to the Faroe Islands for one week from Friday, but that seems to be impossible. If I'm in quarantine, I can't travel. If they close down the airports while we are there, we won't be able to go home to work on our hospital. So our holiday is cancelled now, and I'm not even sure, if we can get a refund. Sorry for the long post, but I'm a little bored at home.
 

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Keep your chin up - and your family's.

It boils down to two views:

1. 'it's just the flu' - 'you'll be alright'.
2. why is China, and now Italy, going to such 'end of world' lengths to deal with 'just the flu'?

My 2 cents:

China and Iran got the real deal - a bioweapon - very serious, hence the high death rate, and huge war-footing efforts by the Chinese, and Iran talking of an act of war against them.

Milan/Lombardy has links to China/Chinese with the fashion trade, which may explain what's happening there.

The rest, US, UK, non-Italy Europe etc, may have Corona virus as cover for the collapse of their phony economies, so that the culprits don't get fingered.

There's been a plan to take down Iran for decades. China is in the crosshairs because of its oil-buying from Iran, which helps it majorly to keep going, and just before Corona outbreak started, China and Iran were cooperating with Russia in military exercises.

China was due to be attacked/regime-changed separately, eventually too.

China appears to be getting on top of it. They can do this because they are a homogenous society, and believe in their destiny.

UK believes in money and commerce - hence rugby at Twickenham, Cheltenham festival and so on, and little people told to wash their hands and trust their govt, which leads to panic buying, and everyone for themselves.

If we, UK, do get the China/Iran/Milan Corona virus, it's game over for us.

There'll be no 'Blitz Spirit'. That was largely bollocks even in the 1940s, with the Eastenders locked out of the deep underground Tube stations, until the authorities relented and let the little people in, while Churchill was in his bunker, 90 feet under ground, or moved to way out of London, when they knew the real air raids were coming - the broken Enigma code and so on - and plans to move the Royal Family to Canada, well out of harm's way.

Johnson fancies himself as a Churchill - short, fat, probably bald, and drinks like a fish, but a good actor.

I just laugh at the madness of it all, and wonder is everyone playing a part, a role these days? Who the hell is genuine?
 

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Sometimes you shake up my faith in humanity ;-)
 

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I hate homepages like that. If they are right, they turn everything I know upside down. I certainly hope, there is no truth in what they say. I almost get very depressed, when I read conspiration theories like that one.

One reason, we take corona virus much more serious than, say, tuberculosis and malaria, is that corona virus is happening in our part of the world. The other diseases occur in the third world. It is not very sympathetic, but that's how it always is. If two people are killed by terrorists in Paris, we all go crazy. But when 2,000 are killed in Syria, nobody lifts an eyebrow. Corona virus is very real. People are getting ill. It is true, that most people don't get seriously ill, but a certain percentage has to be admitted to hospital, and some of those have to go to the intensive care unit. If the virus spreads too quickly, the hospitals and the health care system will be completely overloaded.

On Friday I started to get a slight fever and sore throat. So I went to our summerhouse. I have my winter holiday anyway, so I'm not wanted at work. I don't want to spread the disease to my wife, who has a hospital to run. But actually I have only been very lightly ill, so in two days I can move back home, if I keep feeling well. We don't test people anymore in Denmark, unless they are seriously ill. Those with slight symptoms are encouraged to isolate themselves so they don't pass the infection.
 

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I hate homepages like that. If they are right, they turn everything I know upside down.
- exactly, Blue/Red Pill Matrix territory - the last interesting film out of Hollywood.

But, even Mad Musky appears to be saying/thinking that something's not right about this Virus Thing:

My frank opinion remains that the harm from the coronavirus panic far exceeds that of the virus itself. If there is a massive redirection of medical resources out of proportion to the danger, it will result in less available care to those with critical medical needs, which does not serve the greater good.”
https://electrek.co/2020/03/17/elon-musk-tesla-coronavirus-panic-email/

Musky is no Einstein - he's a song-and-dance Frontman - but even he suspects something's off.

He is not of a pay grade that will know what's going on - several tiers down the pyramid - he 'didn't get the memo'.

But neither is Trump, or Johnson, or Merkel, etc, all just frontmen, highly rewarded clowns, actors, puppets.

They look and seem bewildered too - 'what the hell is going on', changing their message every 5 minutes, but in the direction now of the 'sky is falling', 'you're all going to die', 'we must have de facto martial law'.

Too convenient.
 

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More convenient, godsend cover for businesses that were trading fraudulently for years, which the owners/vulture capitalists had long looted, loaded up with unrepayable debt, and now can go bang with the blame all on The Virus:

- Carphone Warehouse
- Laura Ashley
- myriad other High Street/'Hospitality' 'businesses'/finance looting vehicles

and now the biggies:

- Nissan Sunderland - just a few years ago described as the most efficient car plant on the planet
- JLR surely to follow
- rest of 'UK car industry'

Nissan's bosses must be thanking their lucky stars for CoronaThing. Sunderland went bang with Dieselgate and then the rise and rise of Skoda/Seat, and Hyundai-Kia.

It'll be 'suspended production' now, but what would be the point of reopening it, with demand for the Qashqai a fraction of what it was 5 years ago, and the crap Leaf about to be finished off by the ID.3, plus tarrifs/customs checks to/from Europe from 2021?

Not gonna happen. It's a godsend for Nissan's management.

Same with JLR - CoronaThing will cover the collapse of demand since over 4 years ago.

Nissan, JLR, and other UK car makers will tell the workers to take their annual leave now, and the 'temporary' shutdown will be unpaid after that, like billionaire Branson's airline etc.

UK is back to the Dickensian workhouse - without the workhouse. No money, no mortgage, no rent, eviction, homeless, drugs, death.

Who cares, right? 'The market decides', as The Iron Lady and her economic gurus like Milton Friedman always said - except when it comes to the City and Wall St, and connected billionaires.

That 'Booming Economy' thing of the last 10/40 years was a mirage/flatout lie fed to the gullible little people. Now we see its reality - no safety net at all, no social security or health service at all, just like Victorian times, without the Poorhouse/Workhouse/Poor Law, but the saps over the last 40 years paid up to 10% of their wages/salaries into National Insurance, the fund meant to pay for it all, including unemployment benefit, when needed. Guess what? It was lie, the money, trillions, went to welfare for the bankers in 2008-2020, and the .01% paying less income tax in absolute terms than their cleaners. Hilarious, eh?

Not so funny now is it, with millions, tens of millions of Brits looking down the barrel of sub-Dickensian absolute poverty and destitution, and likely a premature death - which is what 'they' wanted and planned for all along of course.
 

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Anyone who sees this and still goes with the media, state story on The Thing, is either a vegetable, their IQ lower than their shoe size, or one of them, the 'They' Trump talks about - 'they said close it down' - or one of 'They''s well-rewarded, 30 pieces of silver lackeys, the 'Lackerati', 'Quackerati', the many, many, vast majority, soulless, venal quacks, officials, bureaucrats, power-tripping, ugly physically and spiritually people, now having a field day, getting one over and back on those from infants school who teased them for being dull, ugly, no sense of humour, not the sharpest tool, a suck up, creep, swot, teacher's pet, snitch, who then want into faceless officialdom, or a mid-ranking political career, or a no-mark medic, unable to hack even basic face to face real medicine/social work, so became a pen-pushing bureaucrat, manager, who now psychotically enjoys their total power, literal life and death, freedom or locked up indefinitely, for life, over the swallowing it all little people.

Trump is an idiot savant. He kind of knows what's (really) going on, tries perhaps to tip off his Base, but also adores the limelight, only given to him by his puppet masters, 'They', on condition he plays his part, just reads the script, and so this is probably his best 'hangout', trying to cover two stools, his Base and his string pullers.

see from 7:30:

 

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- nah, I believe every syllable from Auntie Beeb and Uncle Spaffer, with his death's door Thing illness, cough, and that nice Robert Jenrick, and the Scotch head quack, who made genuine mistakes, and are absolutely not insiders, actors who know it's Kabuki theatre for the little people - no siree.

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- nah, I believe every syllable from Auntie Beeb and Uncle Spaffer, with his death's door Thing illness, cough, and that nice Robert Jenrick, and the Scotch head quack, who made genuine mistakes, and are absolutely not insiders, actors who know it's Kabuki theatre for the little people - no siree.

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You see, I had those thoughts.
Was Boris’s expedition to St Thomas’s hospital a charade in order to reinforce a point but would never openly expressed it as you do. 😊
 

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You see, I had those thoughts.
Was Boris’s expedition to St Thomas’s hospital a charade in order to reinforce a point but would never openly expressed it as you do. 😊
in a word, yes.

In several words:

- he's a bad, lazy actor, not coughing, snivelling when his 'illness' was getting progressively worse.

- what better way to get the little people to pay attention, stop believing their eyes and their own sense, than to have the 'Got it Done' hero leader be personally struck down by The Thing, even brought to death's door, '50/50 chance of survival once in intensive care' etc - oh, the drama - better than Eastenders/Coronation Street for the plebs.

There is another view, though. Spaffer was equivocal and openly, able to be seen by the public, equivocating about the de facto, not officially declared martial law and controlled demolition of the middle-class economy and middle-England - his voter base - which he though he'd just become 'King' of, his life's ambition, by his string pullers, so perhaps to teach their puppet, they reminded him who's boss, who is paid to play a role, and who calls the shots - literally - see Bill Gates etc.

So, bit like the Soviet Union, supposed top officials, politburo members, can suddenly disappear, for an indeterminate time, the public told they are unwell, perhaps suffering 'anxiety', which is/was code for they've been taken to the funny farm, and reminded to toe the line, or else.

Spaffer being the jellyfish he is, would have rowed back in immediately, once it became clear Raab or any A.N.Other would have served the purpose, done the job, for They.

He's had his chain tugged, and will now follow orders without question, not planting the slightest doubt or get-out in the minds of his adoring fans.
 

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CAGW and The Thing - two cheeks of the same backside. Ferguson of BSE/Mad Cow Disease and Foot and Mouth 'acclaim'/fame, the well-paid lackey and 'scientist', expert that all the little people must pay heed to, like the human-sacrificing Incas and their high priests.


To think back in my day, the mid 80s, Imperial was regarded as a/thee top engineering/science college/university, with only the brightest getting in, and now, like everything else in UK of any quality, merit or integrity, totally trashed, made a mockery of, the exact opposite of what it pretends, purports to be.
 

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Seems we are exceptional, this Jerusalem, this sceptred isle, this.United Dumbeddom, with even the Yanks and Canucks waking up, and we will be the last to know, work it out, if ever - Day 1,456 in the Big Brother Madhouse, aka UK, all quiet, nothing to report, inmates, sorry, inhabitants, docile as ever, watching their boxsets, praying for Spaffer, obeying their masters:

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Orwell got it so wrong. 1984 was/is not a dystopia for Brits, but a utopia:


The top echelons of English/British society have always known that the average Englishman/Brit loves nothing better than snitching, grassing, getting one over on his fellow man, and hopefully getting some financial reward, or 'good books' status with his 'betters'.

As the Duke of Wellington, an Anglo-Irishman, with some outside perspective on the British condition, like myself, said over 200 years ago, 'they(his common soldiers) are the scum of the earth, but they're my scum'.

That summed it up perfectly, and still does. Good, excellent in times of war, but f'ing useless in civil society, when what you want is not unthinking, mindless automata, but rational actor, intelligent citizens.

When even British Plod is shocked, you know as a society and culture you've hit rock bottom.

Huxley was much nearer the mark than Orwell.

The Pilgrims and many European migrants to the New World left for this very reason, real intolerance, pettymindedness, crushing conformity to the lowest level, so it's no real shock that the US is perhaps the last beacon of hope for rebelling against this in-yer-face totalitarianism and tyranny, connived in joyfully by the average Brit.
 

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Where's PR man Cameron and his 'We're All In It Together' when you need him:


We're this close to pitchforks, torches, and the Tyburn Jig globally - not #LovingLockdown #NHSHeroes UK obviously.
 

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Where are the British quacks, sorry, 'Heroes', speaking out?


Is it a med school, private school, British middle class thing, this 'Omerta', or just that they're lily-livered not worth spit outside their titles types, who could only make it in life by being loyal system drones, to a 'man' and woman?
 

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Where are the British quacks, sorry, 'Heroes', speaking out?


Is it a med school, private school, British middle class thing, this 'Omerta', or just that they're lily-livered not worth spit outside their titles types, who could only make it in life by being loyal system drones, to a 'man' and woman?
Doesn't he seem rather unwell and short of breath? And he is a "respiratory therapist". We don't have those over here, but as I understand, he is not a doctor as the title of the video implies. But he is of course a specialist and has inside knowledge of things.

I must also say, that we have not been hit very hard in my little hospital. Denmark in general has not been hit very hard. We managed to shut down the country quickly. But still we have only had 1/10 of the patients they foresaw, if the shutdown worked. And if it didn't work, they antisipated chaos. We have had a little more than 300 deaths with corona. Not all from corona virus, but dead whilst infected with corona virus. In a normal winter, 1,600 people would have died from the flu. And nobody would have cared about it. I must say, I can't help but thinking, if there is something wrong here. It doesn't really add up. We have opened for several trades and shops this week, so I just went to get a haircut today. Last week we opened the schools for the smalle children. Now we must wait a week or two and see, if lots of people suddenly get the virus.
 

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I must also say, that we have not been hit very hard in my little hospital. Denmark in general has not been hit very hard. We managed to shut down the country quickly. But still we have only had 1/10 of the patients they foresaw, if the shutdown worked. And if it didn't work, they antisipated chaos. We have had a little more than 300 deaths with corona. Not all from corona virus, but dead whilst infected with corona virus. In a normal winter, 1,600 people would have died from the flu. And nobody would have cared about it. I must say, I can't help but thinking, if there is something wrong here. It doesn't really add up.
- now you're getting it. So are the Yanks, ...but not/never the Brits:

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US politician, former MD/obstetrician Ron Paul:

Ron Paul writes -

"From California to New Jersey, Americans are protesting in the streets.

"They are demanding an end to house arrest orders given by government officials over a virus outbreak that even according to the latest US government numbers will claim fewer lives than the seasonal flu outbreak of 2017-2018.

"Across the US, millions of businesses have been shut down by “executive order” and the unemployment rate has skyrocketed to levels not seen since the Great Depression.



"Americans, who have seen their real wages decline thanks to Federal Reserve monetary malpractice, are finding themselves thrust into poverty and standing in breadlines.

"Last week the UN Secretary General warned that a global recession resulting from the worldwide coronavirus lockdown could cause “hundreds of thousands of additional child deaths per year.”

"Many Americans have died this past month because they were not able to get the medical care they needed. Cancer treatments have been indefinitely postponed. Life-saving surgeries have been put off to make room for coronavirus cases.

"Meanwhile hospitals are laying off thousands because the expected coronavirus cases have not come and the hospitals are partially empty."

- H O A X.

The idea behind the 'P(l)andemic' is to destroy the middle class.

It's the same, somewhat more iron fist in a velvet glove, as the Bolshevik takeover in Russia, eliminating, genociding the intelligentsia, the middle-class, 'kulaks', repeated in The Ukraine in the 30s, with the Holodomor, and post WWII in multiple 'people's rebublics', 'socialist paradises', from Hungary to China's 'Cultural Revolution', when reading spectacles were banned, to Cambodia, to what we have now in The West.

The New World Order/One World Order is about just the 'elites', and their slave class.

They have all the money, assets, land, resources, water etc, so don't need 90% of what they see as 'useless eaters' - see the Georgia Guidestones.

They are psychos, simply, some say satanic, who believe they are God, and have the power of life and death over us mere mortals, who they see as Cattle - to be slaughtered.

This is their End-game, having failed to achieve the same with Global Warming/Extinction Rebellion/Zero Carbon, which most Americans weren't falling for - the Brits adored it - and before that the first option of red in tooth and claw Communism - hundreds of millions slaughtered, to 'make the workers' paradise' - which also became too obvious, and then Cultural Marxism in the West, post-war, which wrecked the family, nation and culture, but didn't achieve the goal of total, global, hegemonic control, and was taking too long.

The 10/40 years ponzi, phony western financial system had collapsed in 2019 anyway, over $1 quadrillion in derivatives, the private Fed printing around $5tn for its Wall St cronies last September, so the long-planned Plandemic - 'Contagion' film, Simpsons cartoon, 2012 Olympics opening cermoney etc - was just acutated, to cover for the now tens of trillions already printed for the banker class across the US, UK, Europe and so on - state welfare for billionaires, starvation for Joe Average.

Thank god - the real fella - that enough Yanks still have a brain, and more importantly, a soul, and a pair, and are fighting back. UK is gone - did it ever live? England really expired with the Norman takeover, and the massive wealth concentration/theft that followed, which the English never threw the the yoke of off, the phony 'Civil War' - Cromwell's Amsterdam merchants grabbing even more wealth, cemented by 'The Glorious Revolution' of 1688 and the Bank of England that coindentally followed a few years later - England RIP.

Germany too - see the people fighting the jackboot thugs, Merkel's 'Polizei', in Berlin at the weekend, and Sweden remained rational, plus China back to work and business, etc.

Denmark showing some similar reason and sense as its Swedish neighbour.

'They' may have overplayed their cards.

As many of them live or have bases in London, they may have mistaken human nature for British nature. The Brits will serve anything, do anything, as long as there's a shekel in it - no questions asked, no qualms of conscience, religion, scruples, morals etc.

The whole world isn't like that. Many Yanks actually believe in God, and their Constitution, and their country - not NYC, DC, etc.

It looks like it could be unravelling, hence the now farcical inteventions of the likes of the governor of the Bank of England, a lackey kicked to parrot the party line, of 'Don't Dare Stop the Lockdown!'.

Grab your popcorn and watch what the scum/loons and their lackeys do next, as they try to hold the line of 'We're doing this all to protect you and your elderly parents/grand-parents from The Thing'.
 
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