XF Forum banner

1 - 7 of 7 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,241 Posts
Discussion Starter #1
The outbreak of the Corona virus is being used as an explanation and an excuse for a lot of things happening at the moment. It has also been mentioned in relation to JLR and the falling sales. I can tell you, that the Corona virus is getting really close. Yesterday, Monday, I was at my dentist's to have two old fillings repaired. He met me with a face mask and wouldn't shake my hand. "These are the precautions we have to take now", he said. Then he rummaged around inside my mouth for one hour using a lot of force, hammering wedges in between my teeth to make room for his work et cetera. Not that it hurt a lot, but it is not exactly comfortable to have your mouth wide open for one hour while all this is being done.

During his work he was doing a little small talk telling me, he had just returned from a skiing holiday in Austria the day before, Sunday. Being a doctor, I'm used to notice subtle health related symptoms, and I noticed, he was coughing a little. And sure enough. This morning his colleague at the clinic phoned me, that my dentist had developed a fever and started coughing yesterday evening. A special unit will come to test him today. So for now I'll have to stay at home, until I know whether my dentist has caught Corona virus or not.

Fortunately I have started a two weeks holiday (am. vacation) yesterday, so I'm not at work. Otherwise I would have put my colleagues and my patients at risk. Our youngest son (20 yo) is at home, but he is ill. He actually came home from a weekend in Vienna (de. Wien), Austria, two weeks ago and has been ill with a cold since then. It doesn't really look like Corona (covid-19), but more like a conventional cold. And he was i Austria before Austria became part of the "red zone".

My wife has gone to her work today. Fortunately, we haven't been close. I have had a sinusitis, which is not yet completely over, so we keep a little distance. Our ill son prefers my wife's bed, so he was sleeping next to me last night, and my wife slept in a separate room. If my dentist has caught Corona virus, my wife can't go home to us. Fortunately, we have a summerhouse only 40 kms away, were she can go. Of course you could argue, that my wife should come home to be isolated with our son and me for two weeks. Theoretically, she could also have catched the virus from me, if my dentist tests positive.

This just to show, what an impact this can have on all our lives. It is not easy to decide, what to do. We don't want to infect other people and not least our patients. But we also want to go to work, since doctors are always needed. Fortunately, my wife is the CMO (chief medical officer) of the hospital, so she only has office work and has no contact with patients. Another small matter is, that we have planned to go to the Faroe Islands for one week from Friday, but that seems to be impossible. If I'm in quarantine, I can't travel. If they close down the airports while we are there, we won't be able to go home to work on our hospital. So our holiday is cancelled now, and I'm not even sure, if we can get a refund. Sorry for the long post, but I'm a little bored at home.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4,867 Posts
Keep your chin up - and your family's.

It boils down to two views:

1. 'it's just the flu' - 'you'll be alright'.
2. why is China, and now Italy, going to such 'end of world' lengths to deal with 'just the flu'?

My 2 cents:

China and Iran got the real deal - a bioweapon - very serious, hence the high death rate, and huge war-footing efforts by the Chinese, and Iran talking of an act of war against them.

Milan/Lombardy has links to China/Chinese with the fashion trade, which may explain what's happening there.

The rest, US, UK, non-Italy Europe etc, may have Corona virus as cover for the collapse of their phony economies, so that the culprits don't get fingered.

There's been a plan to take down Iran for decades. China is in the crosshairs because of its oil-buying from Iran, which helps it majorly to keep going, and just before Corona outbreak started, China and Iran were cooperating with Russia in military exercises.

China was due to be attacked/regime-changed separately, eventually too.

China appears to be getting on top of it. They can do this because they are a homogenous society, and believe in their destiny.

UK believes in money and commerce - hence rugby at Twickenham, Cheltenham festival and so on, and little people told to wash their hands and trust their govt, which leads to panic buying, and everyone for themselves.

If we, UK, do get the China/Iran/Milan Corona virus, it's game over for us.

There'll be no 'Blitz Spirit'. That was largely bollocks even in the 1940s, with the Eastenders locked out of the deep underground Tube stations, until the authorities relented and let the little people in, while Churchill was in his bunker, 90 feet under ground, or moved to way out of London, when they knew the real air raids were coming - the broken Enigma code and so on - and plans to move the Royal Family to Canada, well out of harm's way.

Johnson fancies himself as a Churchill - short, fat, probably bald, and drinks like a fish, but a good actor.

I just laugh at the madness of it all, and wonder is everyone playing a part, a role these days? Who the hell is genuine?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,241 Posts
Discussion Starter #3
Sometimes you shake up my faith in humanity ;-)
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,241 Posts
Discussion Starter #5
I hate homepages like that. If they are right, they turn everything I know upside down. I certainly hope, there is no truth in what they say. I almost get very depressed, when I read conspiration theories like that one.

One reason, we take corona virus much more serious than, say, tuberculosis and malaria, is that corona virus is happening in our part of the world. The other diseases occur in the third world. It is not very sympathetic, but that's how it always is. If two people are killed by terrorists in Paris, we all go crazy. But when 2,000 are killed in Syria, nobody lifts an eyebrow. Corona virus is very real. People are getting ill. It is true, that most people don't get seriously ill, but a certain percentage has to be admitted to hospital, and some of those have to go to the intensive care unit. If the virus spreads too quickly, the hospitals and the health care system will be completely overloaded.

On Friday I started to get a slight fever and sore throat. So I went to our summerhouse. I have my winter holiday anyway, so I'm not wanted at work. I don't want to spread the disease to my wife, who has a hospital to run. But actually I have only been very lightly ill, so in two days I can move back home, if I keep feeling well. We don't test people anymore in Denmark, unless they are seriously ill. Those with slight symptoms are encouraged to isolate themselves so they don't pass the infection.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4,867 Posts
I hate homepages like that. If they are right, they turn everything I know upside down.
- exactly, Blue/Red Pill Matrix territory - the last interesting film out of Hollywood.

But, even Mad Musky appears to be saying/thinking that something's not right about this Virus Thing:

My frank opinion remains that the harm from the coronavirus panic far exceeds that of the virus itself. If there is a massive redirection of medical resources out of proportion to the danger, it will result in less available care to those with critical medical needs, which does not serve the greater good.”
https://electrek.co/2020/03/17/elon-musk-tesla-coronavirus-panic-email/

Musky is no Einstein - he's a song-and-dance Frontman - but even he suspects something's off.

He is not of a pay grade that will know what's going on - several tiers down the pyramid - he 'didn't get the memo'.

But neither is Trump, or Johnson, or Merkel, etc, all just frontmen, highly rewarded clowns, actors, puppets.

They look and seem bewildered too - 'what the hell is going on', changing their message every 5 minutes, but in the direction now of the 'sky is falling', 'you're all going to die', 'we must have de facto martial law'.

Too convenient.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4,867 Posts
More convenient, godsend cover for businesses that were trading fraudulently for years, which the owners/vulture capitalists had long looted, loaded up with unrepayable debt, and now can go bang with the blame all on The Virus:

- Carphone Warehouse
- Laura Ashley
- myriad other High Street/'Hospitality' 'businesses'/finance looting vehicles

and now the biggies:

- Nissan Sunderland - just a few years ago described as the most efficient car plant on the planet
- JLR surely to follow
- rest of 'UK car industry'

Nissan's bosses must be thanking their lucky stars for CoronaThing. Sunderland went bang with Dieselgate and then the rise and rise of Skoda/Seat, and Hyundai-Kia.

It'll be 'suspended production' now, but what would be the point of reopening it, with demand for the Qashqai a fraction of what it was 5 years ago, and the crap Leaf about to be finished off by the ID.3, plus tarrifs/customs checks to/from Europe from 2021?

Not gonna happen. It's a godsend for Nissan's management.

Same with JLR - CoronaThing will cover the collapse of demand since over 4 years ago.

Nissan, JLR, and other UK car makers will tell the workers to take their annual leave now, and the 'temporary' shutdown will be unpaid after that, like billionaire Branson's airline etc.

UK is back to the Dickensian workhouse - without the workhouse. No money, no mortgage, no rent, eviction, homeless, drugs, death.

Who cares, right? 'The market decides', as The Iron Lady and her economic gurus like Milton Friedman always said - except when it comes to the City and Wall St, and connected billionaires.

That 'Booming Economy' thing of the last 10/40 years was a mirage/flatout lie fed to the gullible little people. Now we see its reality - no safety net at all, no social security or health service at all, just like Victorian times, without the Poorhouse/Workhouse/Poor Law, but the saps over the last 40 years paid up to 10% of their wages/salaries into National Insurance, the fund meant to pay for it all, including unemployment benefit, when needed. Guess what? It was lie, the money, trillions, went to welfare for the bankers in 2008-2020, and the .01% paying less income tax in absolute terms than their cleaners. Hilarious, eh?

Not so funny now is it, with millions, tens of millions of Brits looking down the barrel of sub-Dickensian absolute poverty and destitution, and likely a premature death - which is what 'they' wanted and planned for all along of course.
 
1 - 7 of 7 Posts
Top