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I have noticed that my allloys (18inch Venus) seem to be holding the brake dust rather more than normal over the past few weeks and not easy to clean from the very slight 'dimples' where the 'spokes' join the rim without resorting to wheel cleaner spray. Not keen on having to do this on a regular basis as I am sure it must affect the surface coating/varnish.

Does anyone have any tips as to how I can reduce the problem. Is there a coating available that can be applied (once the wheel is thorouighly clean)?
 

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andrewll said:
I have noticed that my allloys (18inch Venus) seem to be holding the brake dust rather more than normal over the past few weeks and not easy to clean from the very slight 'dimples' where the 'spokes' join the rim without resorting to wheel cleaner spray. Not keen on having to do this on a regular basis as I am sure it must affect the surface coating/varnish.

Does anyone have any tips as to how I can reduce the problem. Is there a coating available that can be applied (once the wheel is thorouighly clean)?
You could have tried snow as an alternative :lol: :lol:
Seriously, I can't offer a solution but I do wonder what mileage you have done. I ask because I know that I used to be concerned with the amount of brake dust generated but oddly it does not trouble me today at about 13000.
Is it possible that the discs bed in and the dust issue is reduced after cosiderable use :?:
 

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I have only done just over 3000 miles so maybe it will get better. I am concerned that the brake dust will start to pit the alloy surface (as it has done on other cars I have owned). Taking my lead from you Pekem, on keeping my XF clean, I would really like to avoid the alloys becoming unsightly without resorting to the cleaner spray all the time.

Roma used to be the expert on this type of thing I believe but hasnt he gone off to non XF pastures?
 

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andrewll said:
Does anyone have any tips as to how I can reduce the problem. Is there a coating available that can be applied (once the wheel is thorouighly clean)?
Clay bar the wheels
 

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That's almost certainly what the more-or-less departed Roma might say, but then he's obsessed! :)
 

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There is a sealer available to apply after the wheel has been cleaned. i use this on a 4/5 week basis, but find i still get lots of black on the wheels & have to clean with a brush.
also noticed i get more on rear wheels, dealer tells me this is due to softer pads fitted to rear.
i think the trick maybe is to keep on top of the problem & do weekly ??.
 

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I typed a huge response earlier but the site crashed when I tried to post it!

Anyway, my advice is to seal the wheels before the onset of Winter if you can. You need to ensure that they are extremely clean before you seal them though. They need to be thoroughly cleaned with a good, safe wheel cleaner like Valet Pro's Bilberry. If your wheels are in a very poor state then you could use a very strong acidic cleaner like Wonder Wheels (you can get this from Halfords). The best way to clean the wheels is to jet wash all the crud off them first, spray/apply the wheel cleaner liberally to the wheels face and inside surface. Agitate the wheel cleaner using a sponge/soft brush ensuring that every nook and cranny is touched and the wheel cleaner foams up nicely.

Then leave for 3-4 minutes and agitate again and finally jet wash off, rinsing very thoroughly. If you have been using Wonder Wheels then this stuff will eat your wheels if you don't rinse it off properly!

Then dry the wheels using a terry towel or microfibre cloth, ensuring they are thoroughly dry prior to sealing.

Next, use a good quality wheel sealant. You can use specialist sealants like Pooorboy's Wheel Sealant or Finish Kare 1000P. These are available from specialist detailing online retailers. Other possible sealants you can use are synthetic waxes like Collinite 476S (which are usually used for the paintwork). You could even use Autoglym Super Resin Polish followed by Autoglym Extra Gloss Protection on your wheels - these are available from Halfords.

Preparation of the wheels is key to ensuring that the sealant works well. The wheels need to be extremely clean and dry. Apply a thin layer of your chosen sealant using a foam applicator. Leave to haze over and then buff to a high gloss finish using a polishing cloth or a microfibre cloth.

Some sealants work best if two layers are applied. The sealant will provide a protective barrier from road dirt, salt and brake dust and should last a few months. It will also make cleaning the wheels easier as the dirt will have less grip.
 

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Hi Roma,

Thought you had departed for (non Jaguar) pastures new.

Great advice thanks very much. I guess it's better to remove the wheels from the car to carry out this process? As the XF has only covered some 3000 odd miles shouldnt be too much of a problem to get them really clean then apply the protective coating.

I have a 3 year old BMW (shock horror) as well and the alloys have become badly pitted this winter. Any tips on how I can sort them out?
 

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Andrew, yes, I have sold my XF now but still pop in every now and then to offer any advice that I can.

Badly pitted wheels are indicative of dirt and brake dust that may have penetrated the clearcoat (lacquer).

You can try a few things short of a professional wheel refurbishment. Firstly, a very strong alloy wheel cleaner like Wonder Wheels - you shouldn't use this on a regular basis and you should rinse this off with lots of water! The key is to agitate the wheel cleaner into a foam and let it dwell for a short time (no more than a few minutes). Then agitate again and rinse off with a pressure washer. You may need to try more than one application.

Failing that, you could try a product called 'Tardis' if the pitting on your wheels is, in fact, tar spots. Tardis dissolves tar.

The last attempt would be to try and clay the wheels. You can buy a Meguair's Smooth Clay Kit from Halfords (about £22 for the complete kit which includes a couple of clay bars and some quick detailing spray which is used as the lubricant). Claying 'pulls' dirt off of the surface that you clay.

If that still doesn't work then a professional wheel refurbishment would normally be required. This is fairly costly (£60 - £120 per wheel!).

I hope that helps. You can Google the products to find suppliers.
 

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Thanks Roma, thats a real big help I'll give it a try.

No thoughts of swapping back to the upgraded XF ?
 
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Hi Guys,
a newbie but maybe i can offer some help. i have billet ali wheels on my other car (from Image wheels) and they supply a liquid which is applied to new wheels ( or cleaned wheels) which makes the surface more difficult for the brake dust to adhere to. i will pop into the garage tommorrow and get the bottle and pass details on). After nearley 1000 miles of spirited driving in 2 weeks there is no accumulated brake dust (although i admit it is only in sunny weather as it is a beast). There are other products available from the likes of halfords which i am sure will also do the job.

Not an XF owner yet but maybe after lunch today if its ready!

Best regards

Andy

from Xtype 2.5S AWD to XF3d Portfolio in black of course!
 

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Welcome to the forum jagx2 :)
I am sure many will be interested in a product that eliminates brake dust on the XF
I have to say that I am hoping that I have found the solution with the advice provided by Qhunter, see other link below ;)
It seems that you should have a brilliant day today and it won't just be your reflection in that Ultimate Black XF which you hope to pick up this afternoon :)
Please take a camera with you so that we can all see it later, in the meantime, your name has been added to the ever growing Roll of Honour at:
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