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I'm looking for advice. I've enjoyed my XF (MY2016) for over 5 years now, almost trouble freely. Sadly, the first potentially expensive fault has reared its ugly head, in that the air conditioning has stopped working. The local main dealer has offered to gas it up, and if that doesn't work subtract the cost of the gas-up from the total cost of replacing the compressor. If it is the latter, he will charge about £1000. On the other hand, the independent Jag specialist tells me that re-pressurizing the system will just waste the gas, and in his experience the compressor will have to be changed. He will charge £700. I could take the risk, and have the system re-gassed (~£200) but if that doesn't work I am stuck with the main dealer carrying out the more expensive work. What does the team think?
 

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I'd be tempted to do a re-gas first, but not at the two places you mentioned. I had a quick look on-line and It looks like there are many auto air con specialists around. Halfords was one of the first I looked at with prices advertised as starting from £50, so I'd definitely look at doing something like this before handing the job over to a Jag garage.
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Thanks, Dr M. It seems that Halfords offer (through TyresOnThe Drive) a driveway service option. However the cost of the R1234yf refrigerant option is not significantly cheaper than what the main dealer would charge. Hmmmm...
 

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Thanks, Dr M. It seems that Halfords offer (through TyresOnThe Drive) a driveway service option. However the cost of the R1234yf refrigerant option is not significantly cheaper than what the main dealer would charge. Hmmmm...
Kwik fit are charging around £50 for a regas. I had mine done a month or so ago and has worked perfectly since. I was unaware, but apparently aircon systems need regassing between 12-18 months.
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Thanks, Mike. I checked the price for Kwik Fit, and their only option for my particular XF is to fill using the more expensive "environmentally friendly" refrigerant R1234yf, for £130. I took my car to an independent this morning, and they showed me the corrosion where a pipe is attached to the condenser, and (wearing special glasses and using something like luminol for blood splatter) evidence of the resulting leak. The pressure was measured to be 3 bar and apparently should be 7 bar. To fix it will require replacing the condenser - apparently 5 years is the average lifetime of this expensive component. I've booked the car in for a replacement, hopefully to be carried out in time for our "summer".
 

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Thanks, Mike. I checked the price for Kwik Fit, and their only option for my particular XF is to fill using the more expensive "environmentally friendly" refrigerant R1234yf, for £130. I took my car to an independent this morning, and they showed me the corrosion where a pipe is attached to the condenser, and (wearing special glasses and using something like luminol for blood splatter) evidence of the resulting leak. The pressure was measured to be 3 bar and apparently should be 7 bar. To fix it will require replacing the condenser - apparently 5 years is the average lifetime of this expensive component. I've booked the car in for a replacement, hopefully to be carried out in time for our "summer".
What a great shame.
 

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Mine's not average either (8-9 years and going strong, though a valve had to be replaced), so some condensers must be breaking down within minutes of driving off the assembly line to bring the average down to 5 years.
 

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I'm looking for advice. I've enjoyed my XF (MY2016) for over 5 years now, almost trouble freely. Sadly, the first potentially expensive fault has reared its ugly head, in that the air conditioning has stopped working. The local main dealer has offered to gas it up, and if that doesn't work subtract the cost of the gas-up from the total cost of replacing the compressor. If it is the latter, he will charge about £1000. On the other hand, the independent Jag specialist tells me that re-pressurizing the system will just waste the gas, and in his experience the compressor will have to be changed. He will charge £700. I could take the risk, and have the system re-gassed (~£200) but if that doesn't work I am stuck with the main dealer carrying out the more expensive work. What does the team think?
I have to ask why you think it is the compressor.
 

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I'm looking for advice. I've enjoyed my XF (MY2016) for over 5 years now, almost trouble freely. Sadly, the first potentially expensive fault has reared its ugly head, in that the air conditioning has stopped working. The local main dealer has offered to gas it up, and if that doesn't work subtract the cost of the gas-up from the total cost of replacing the compressor. If it is the latter, he will charge about £1000. On the other hand, the independent Jag specialist tells me that re-pressurizing the system will just waste the gas, and in his experience the compressor will have to be changed. He will charge £700. I could take the risk, and have the system re-gassed (~£200) but if that doesn't work I am stuck with the main dealer carrying out the more expensive work. What does the team think?
 

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I have to ask why you think it is the compressor.
Mine is in it's 13th year and 270000 kms and still working. I did have a leak in one of the pipes leading to the compressor, but that was patched (old-fashioned mechanic who believes in repair rather than replace).
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Sorry to hear this! I am in a similar position and currently am fixing a new compressor for my a/c. I started noticing the a/c of my XF Super Sport (MY2013) was not cooling effectively last July. I almost fainted when I was given a bill of about $3,300 (the dealer imports all parts from the UK). Jaguar users are a niche market here. I eventually did gas up in December which did not last long, especially in the afternoons when our temperatures soared to about 40 degrees. I eventually and painful had to order a new compressor from the UK because we are entering the rainy seasons which causes condensation when the a/c in not working. It's being fitted as I type and will pick up the car later today. I eventually paid about $2,200 after negotiating (shouting and kicking up a fuss). Unfortunately I didn't have much of a choice due to our weather conditions. I wish you all the best with which line of action you take.
 

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Sorry to hear this! I am in a similar position and currently am fixing a new compressor for my a/c. I started noticing the a/c of my XF Super Sport (MY2013) was not cooling effectively last July. I almost fainted when I was given a bill of about $3,300 (the dealer imports all parts from the UK). Jaguar users are a niche market here. I eventually did gas up in December which did not last long, especially in the afternoons when our temperatures soared to about 40 degrees. I eventually and painful had to order a new compressor from the UK because we are entering the rainy seasons which causes condensation when the a/c in not working. It's being fitted as I type and will pick up the car later today. I eventually paid about $2,200 after negotiating (shouting and kicking up a fuss). Unfortunately I didn't have much of a choice due to our weather conditions. I wish you all the best with which line of action you take.
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I have to ask why you think it is the compressor.
Apologies, but in my original post I wrote "compressor" when I think I meant "condenser" - this was corrected in my third post. The indy Jag garage showed me the leak from the bottom of the condenser. Of course, the compressor could be knackered as well...
 

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Sorry to hear this! I am in a similar position and currently am fixing a new compressor for my a/c. I started noticing the a/c of my XF Super Sport (MY2013) was not cooling effectively last July. I almost fainted when I was given a bill of about $3,300 (the dealer imports all parts from the UK). Jaguar users are a niche market here. I eventually did gas up in December which did not last long, especially in the afternoons when our temperatures soared to about 40 degrees. I eventually and painful had to order a new compressor from the UK because we are entering the rainy seasons which causes condensation when the a/c in not working. It's being fitted as I type and will pick up the car later today. I eventually paid about $2,200 after negotiating (shouting and kicking up a fuss). Unfortunately I didn't have much of a choice due to our weather conditions. I wish you all the best with which line of action you take.
Thanks. I'll keep you all posted. At the moment the indy hasn't located a replacement condenser yet, presumably because of the Great Shortage of Everything...
 
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